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  1. FighterJones is offline
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    I not knowingly when i was little kid did a thing similar of a dropping waki gatame as a little kid when i felt threatened (if I understand the concept of dropping waki gatame correctly)
    was never taught it, i just acted instinctively. (Cradle the arm like your escorting a women politely, but lock it up tight and drop to your knees)
    person came to school the next day and aparantly I almost busted the arm
    Grade 4 jitsu!
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     Style: judo, karate, jap jj

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawdog
    What exactly are you asking? Do you want a list of all the illegal techniques, or do you want examples of how to do the illegal techniques? If the latter, why?
    Quote Originally Posted by roly
    i'm wondering if anyone can reccomend any good dvd's/books/websites/anything ?
    ^ thats what i'm looking for

    why, because i'm curious about them, and since they arent moves that i'll ever really be doing in randori, its the only exposure i'll get to them. mostly curiousity


    All the basic stuff you are taught is legal in judo, so, stick with that stuff and you well do fine.
    Look at all the competions, Nationa, Worlds and Olympic, no one ever won them with "exotic" or "advanced" techniques.
    Master the basics and they will serve you well.
    guys, i'm not out to learn these things to actually use against my training partners, i want to see how its done because it is judo that i have not seen before.


    i have found an old book written by "kawaishi" but it is in french. it seems to have been written before a lot of the rule changes, so it shows a few things that arent legal anymore. judo really was a nasty business back then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FighterJones
    I not knowingly when i was little kid did a thing similar of a dropping waki gatame as a little kid when i felt threatened (if I understand the concept of dropping waki gatame correctly)
    was never taught it, i just acted instinctively. (Cradle the arm like your escorting a women politely, but lock it up tight and drop to your knees)
    person came to school the next day and aparantly I almost busted the arm
    Grade 4 jitsu!
    Same here. On t3h pl4ygr0und, a dropping waki-gatame is probably the simplest and most intuitive way of dealing with people trying to grab you. As a small child, I suffered many near-hyperextensions on my elbow at the hands of the cool kids who would take my lunch money. Your elbow hurts for days and days afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infidel
    does that make bjj one of the most dangerous martial arts to practics as many of those illegal judo moves are legal in bjj?
    No. That is a false assumption. The reason Judo is one of the most dangerous martial arts to practice is because of the high impact throws. BJJ, although it does encompass throwing does not place the same emphasis on throwing techniques. It is not the illegal techniques of Judo that makes Judo dangerous. It is the legal ones. That have two guys landing on each other after a ballistic throw. Those pesky shoulder and knee joints just don't seem built for that kind of thing.
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    Actually, Judo is quite safe compared to, say, soccer, which has close to a 24% injury rate. It's all that planting and twisting, and suddenly SNAP! No more ACL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyFive
    Actually, Judo is quite safe compared to, say, soccer, which has close to a 24% injury rate. It's all that planting and twisting, and suddenly SNAP! No more ACL.
    I don't know the actual statistics, but I have to believe that for a competitive judoka, the injury rate would have to be higher than 24%. I've never known any high level players who did not suffer a significant injury at some point in their careers.

    I'm sure soccer has a higher rate of knee injuries, although judo has its fair share, but judo has all of the other injuries that are less likely in soccer. Shoulder, back & neck, elbow, wrist, in that order. And that's only the significant injuries, that doesn't even count all the minor stuff that we always have to contend with.
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    I remember reading a news story a while ago about an old(-ish) guy who threw a mugger and accidentally broke his neck. I'm not sure if he was using judo or some other martial art (It just said he was a 'long time practioner of martial arts'), but I can imagine a judo throw having the same effect if you landed wrong.
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    on the weekend i had a bit of a browse at the bookshop and found mention of a few techniques in "jigiro kano's kodokan judo" i forget what edition, it doesnt really go into great detail though, does anyone know of any older judo books which would include them?
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    I seem to remember seeing leglocks and such while reading"The Canon of Judo" a while back. It seemed pretty thorough so I'd bet the other illegal techniques would be in there as well.
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    I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but when I started doing judo recently I was told no contact to the face is allowed. That is to say, you can't crossface, or pop your hand on their head when doing an arm triangle.
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