Isn't it more like the people at JJGear completely missed the point? Wasn't the point, whether or not someone who is taught and graded via video able to train and produce capable BJJ players, and should anyone be able to teach BJJ after only training a week. Not to mention the ambiguous navy blue belt with a red stripe.
Originally Posted by Beneath Contempt
The fact that 2 BJJ players are willing to backup what they say and throwdown is great. It's probably the saving grace of BJJ, and will probably slow the Bullshidofication of BJJ. But will these new Video BJJers be willing to do the same?
Originally Posted by Osiris
Something else to consider is this. I remember in my high school wrestling days there were 3 of us who were constantly switching back and forth from JV to V at 189lbs. Why? Because I could pin #1 in about 30 seconds, I couldn't pin #2 to save my life and had a 50/50 record (if I was lucky) against him, and #1 could pin #2 in about 30 seconds...
Originally Posted by Ronin
Why is this important? Because that blue just might have whatever it takes to beat that purple/brown/black but not that white who just happens to have whatever it takes to beat that blue.
BJJ Fighter has sick skills is why he tapped sreiter.
Did anything come of this at all? Besides the deathmatch between the purple and the brown belt, obviously. Was there any response to the letter? Have any "Navy Blue" belts been choked out?
I can't believe some of what I'm hearing...
Now, granted, it is good that we all agree that this video is really, really shady. It's a money making scheme THAT LACKS INTEGRITY plain and simple. The same kind of thing that Royce did when he sends blue belts out to his "students" that he's never met.
Personally however, I can't even believe that some of you believe that it's okay for a blue belt to be teaching ANYTHING. I don't care where they got their belt. A blue might have a grasp on the basics, but to effectively learn BJJ, you NEED the experienced eye of a black belt to pick up on the very minor details that noobs always do wrong.
I'm a BJJ blue belt under Romero Calvacanti, and even though I tap white belts at will, I would never, ever, ever dream of being able to TEACH a white belt class. That's just bollocks.
Personally I wish there was a standard put down by a governing body that requires that a self-proclaimed teacher be at least a brown belt.
I think the fact that people are learining BJJ from even purples harms the integrity of the sport. Now, I'm not saying that purple belts aren't competent grapplers, I'm just saying that they may not posses the overall knowledge and experience that is required to beable to TEACH BJJ.
Total BS. Nothing more.
"The same kind of thing that Royce did when he sends blue belts out to his "students" that he's never met."
Please provide an example of such behavior, including the names of the participants and whether your knowledge is first, second, or third hand.
Aren't you a blue belt of some sort? Just wondering if you are trying to defend your mediocre status - or you are just being a dick per your previous declaration "I am a dick." In any case- who gives a flying ****.
I think an experienced blue belt can teach the basics of BJJ without too much of an ethical issue. I don't think it's bad policy either, just as long as you don't lie about your own techniques and abilities.
As someone who spent the first year of his BJJ training exclusively under a blue belt, allow me to comment.
Originally Posted by Vihsadas
The broad statement that a blue belt is completely unable to teach white belts is incorrect. The ability of a blue belt, or any ranked person in BJJ to instruct is dependent upon the teaching ability that the individual possesses. A black belt, whilst a guarantor of technical knowledge, is not an inherent guarantee of the ability to impart said technical knowledge.
I know blue belts who I do not believe capable of teaching. For that matter I know purple belts incapable of teaching. Even (gasp!) black belts who aren't very capable teachers. Yet I know people at all of the above ranks who are capable of teaching.
An experienced blue belt can be a very good teacher of white belts. My instructor, a dedicated black belt instructor and competitor, has said as much, having given me his permission and encouragement to teach when I reestablish the university BJJ club where I began my training next year. I've been assisting and instructing children's BJJ classes for the better part of two years. Teaching adults who WANT to train is, pardon the pun, child's play as compared to controlling a class of hyperactive 5-9 year olds.
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