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  1. Deluxe247 is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 1:21pm

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    Its TKD in BJJ clothes.

    Isn't it just matter of time and popularity for this to happen to any style?

    EDIT: ie. TKD, kungfu, karate, etc.

    EDIT: Do you hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability.
    I have niether the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manor of which I provide it.
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 1:58pm


     Style: BJJ

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    Nooooo!

    This is disconcerting but expected.

    Just last night my instructor was talking about how poor the blues where at a Pedro Sauer seminar hosted by someone I whose name I forget. The guy's school, who hosted Pedro, but didn't get his belt from him was apparently pretty bad and when my instructor rolled with him he made excuses about his fingers. It seemed like a petty excuse for getting dominated by a 40 year old purple (who's damn good btw). Also, he rolled with some of their blues and was far from impressed. He said I had better pressure than all but one or two of his guys, which is sad considering I'm a white with 7 months experience. Usually my instructor has nothing but good things to say about others he trains with.

    My story is anecdotal but it really struck me in that I realized I was lucky to find good training and that others in the future might not be so lucky.
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 2:14pm

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    Allright Bullies.... Here is your list of People to Choke
    Arizona


    AKF Black Belt Academy
    4514 E. Thomas Rd.
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-955-1030
    Tim Mullis-Instructor
    www.AKFBlackBeltAcademy.com



    IBJJA Headquarters
    18631 N. 19th Ave. #166
    Phoenix, AZ 85027
    623-582-3153
    Jerry Laurita-Instructor
    www.LauritaMartialArts.com



    California
    Ernie Reyes West Coast Martial Arts-Gilroy
    745 1st St.
    Gilroy, CA 95020
    408-848-1100
    Russ Rocchi-Instructor


    Ernie Reyes West Coast Martial Arts-Morgan Hill
    16375 Monterey Rd. Suite L
    Morgan Hill, CA 95077
    408-778-2544
    Russ Rocchi-Instructor


    Missouri

    Absolute Martial Arts
    3221 South Kings Highway
    St. Louis, MO 63139
    314-664-0466
    Keith Brock-Instructor
    www.AbsoluteMartialArts.com



    New Mexico

    Champion Tae Kwon Do Center
    9727 Menaul Blvd. N/E
    Albquerque, NM 87112
    505-237-9884
    Chris Ballard-Instructor
    www.Champion-TKD.com



    New York


    Juku Kan Karate
    728 3rd Ave.
    Brooklyn, NY 11209
    718-753-2466
    Duval Hamilton-Instructor
    www.JukuKarate.com



    United Martial Arts Center
    144 North St.
    Cortlandt Manor, NY 10567
    845-222-3270
    John Galloway-Instructor
    Joe Preira-Instructor



    Ohio

    Powers Isshin Ryu Karate Academy
    34425 Lorain Rd. #3
    North Ridgeville, OH 44039
    440-327-3688
    Ed Powers-Instructor
    Melissa Powers-Instructor



    Texas


    Massie Training Systems-Mu Do Kwan
    550 FM 1660 South #5
    Hutto, TX 78634
    512-846-1123
    Mike Massie-Instructor
    www.MassieTrainingSystems.com
  4. Pandinha is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 2:23pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deluxe247
    Its TKD in BJJ clothes.
    Where have you been?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 2:53pm


     Style: boxing, gjj

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    I noticed the words 'submission grappling' used alot. That generally equates to no formal BJJ,wrestling, judo, sambo, etc training. Why these guys don't actually train in one of these styles or bring in someone who has is beyond me. I guess as long as new students/suckers roll in there is no need to.
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 3:18pm

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    Researching...
    Most of these schools sites have no mention of BJJ

    Absolute Martial Arts claims to teach Submission Grappling

    Massie Training Systems-Mu Do Kwan web site http://www.massietrainingsystems.com/ says it teaches Jiu Jitsu and Mixed Martial Arts. On their classes page it says "BJJ classes start Dec. 5th 2005"

    The instructors name is Mike Massie
    on this site http://www.starting-a-martial-arts-school.com/resources it says that Mike Massie is from Small Dojo, BIG profits
    Here he is posting to the fighting arts forum
    http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthrea...h=1&fromprof=1

    Mike Massie has been the subject of other Bullshido posts
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25568

    I just called Mike Massie and spoke with him for a while, I said I was interested in his Brazilian Jiu Jitsu program. I asked him what his rank in BJJ was and who he trained under. He seemed suspicious and asked me where I was calling from and If I had interest In joining the program. I was completely truthful about who I was and why I was calling.

    Mike Massie is a BJJ White belt, he says he rolls with his friend who is purple belt in machado jiu jitsu, and is practicing grappling on his own (?). Also mentioned that he was a 2nd degree black belt in Japanese Jiu Jitsu.

    I told Mike Massie it concerned me that he was claiming to teach BJJ when he was only a white belt.

    Mike Massie said his website was under construction (he was “working on it right now”) and that he was concerned about saying he was teaching anyone BJJ with out at least a blue belt... to which I replied "as you well should be". One thing he said at least twice was "I don't want to claim to be a BJJ instructor when I'm not". (which is exactly what is site does right now, but I wanted to keep the conversation friendly so I refrained from getting nasty). Lets see what changes are made to his site in the next weeks.

    I told Mike Massie my main concern was that Jerry Laurita might be trying to sell him rank, to which he replied that he Jerry just selling a program that taught a framework for instructing grappling. He said grappling is becoming so popular today that you can’t teach a complete self defense program without it.

    I told Mike Massie that one of our members had received the E-mail he sent, and I invited him to join the forum. I said that as long as he was straight up about what his level of experience is it shouldn’t be a problem.

    Mike Massie seems like a nice enough fellow, allbeit misguided. I think the main problem here is Jerry Laurita giving him the impression that he can set up a BJJ program so easily.
    Last edited by BSDaemon; 11/17/2005 10:04pm at . Reason: fact check
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 3:34pm

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    With just a cursory glance at this, and skimming over the post above me, we need to put a good deal of focus on this.
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 3:51pm


     Style: boxing, gjj

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    I live in Austin, which is like 40 mins out of Hutto. But if I go up there and it goes sour, my instructor will kill me.
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 3:59pm

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    Phrost, I'm on this ****...

    I just talked on the phone with Jerry Laurita, I asked him what the requirements are for recieving the Instructor Certificate. He said that there are nine different levels of instructorship, and that the first few tests could be done in person, or through video (!), but the black belt test would definitely have to be done in person. Jerry Laurita should be sending me an information packet through e-mail shortly which I will post here.

    I am also drafting a letter with all of this to snail mail to Joe Moreira's school in Newport Beach, since his domain name joemoeira.com seems to be expired.
  10. Cullion is offline
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    Posted On:
    11/17/2005 4:02pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawdog
    I think that a lot of schools attempt to integrate the style du jour into their own style so as to disguise the instructor's obvious lack of knowledge.
    Yep, I think it's pretty clear thats where all the 'hidden grappling bunkai' in various karate kata suddenly sprang from. And some WC association's claimed 'anti-grappling'.
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