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  1. 1bad65 is offline
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    Good job. And thanks for not posting the picture of his teeth.
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    Nice work.

    A video tournament? It's like... real-life roleplaying for ninjas.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    What kind of bullshit is this !?!?!?!?
    HERE ... HERE my good Man ... no need to ask questions that have self-contained answers. Let's approach this in a rational manner ... shall we? Yes, we shall.

    Obviously, we are dealing with bullshit. What does this tell us? 1. The depositing agent was in fact ... a bull. 2. The deposit proper was in fact ****.

    What do we know about bulls? 1. They are very large animals. 2. Bulls eat large amounts of veggies with a very high fiber content. 3. They pass a tremendous amount of **** when compared to the average Human ... studies forthcoming.

    So ... cooly & methodically factoring in the above what is the "reasonable" conclusion? RIGHT. This whole thing is a large pile of **** from a bull's ass.

    Not only does this cock reek of bullshit, but this ICMAUA crap sounds like the biggest load of cow dung since the...damn, I can't even think of anything !!
    Oh ... I can think of some things on par with this **** ... here ... nice examples ...

    http://www.ironpalm.com/ ...

    ... here's another ... http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/6471/

    ... and another ... http://www.bushido.org/~whfsc/

    ... and ... http://ishh.net/executive.html

    Jeesh, Dude, you don't get out much ... do you? :XXcompute
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    Posted On:
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    Well done KK. I admire your thoroughness and diligence with pursuing this to its conclusion.

    To Leo “Berador” Clausen - yes, since you are reading this I am directing it at you. In my opinion, you would do yourself immeasurable good to come clean and admit your lies. You would also be suprised at how accepting many of the members would be, plus you would be able to look at yourself in the mirror.

    Not an easy task and such advice is worth exaclty what you pay for it.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFS USA
    Oh ... I can think of some things on par with this **** ... here ... nice examples ...

    http://www.ironpalm.com/ ...
    I just LOVE the photo of dear Kimberly with her trophies.
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    Posted On:
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    My writeup.

    Leo Clausen: Punked out.

    Leo Clausen is an individual who is listed on several websites as the Soke of Kawachi Yon Tengu Ryu Ninjitsu, and a ninja style called Ryoko Ryu Ninpo Bugei. He frequents the Ashida Kim message boards and on the 16th of October 2005 posted a thread requesting advice for preparing for a combat tournament.

    Soke is a title conferred upon the grandmaster or head of a school of martial arts, usually one that has been passed on over many generations. The Soke keeps scrolls called densho which contain the techniques of the school along with information on tactics, strategy, weapons or tools.

    There are many individuals falsely claiming to be the inheritor and grandmaster of a ninjitsu school. Ashida Kim, Frank Dux and Rick Tew are some of the more well known.

    Leo Clausen claims to have studied Kawachi Yon Tengu Ryu in Japan under a man named Mishima Ooyama for an undefined length of time. He claims that in the mid 1990’s he helped form a new ninjitsu ryu called Ryoko Ryu Ninpo Bugei and that Ooyama died on the 23rd of August 2005. Clausen claims that after the death of this grandmaster, he was chosen as the 38th Soke of Kawachi Yon tengu ryu, along with the sokeship to the art he claims to have co-founded.

    There are many reasons as to why this tale is suspect. To begin with, no photographs of Clausen training with Mishima Ooyama exist on any of his websites, neither are there pictures of Ooyama by himself or pictures of Clausen in Japan. There has been no photographic evidence put forward to corroborate this story in any way.

    Clausen claims to have competed in a No-Holds-Barred tournament, and publicly states that he is the “ICMAUA Worldchampion, 2005”. He claimed to defeat ten opponents, and by chronological analysis we determined that these fights happened within the space of three days. On the Ashida Kim message board Clausen claimed to be preparing for a combat tournament held by the ICMAUA. He claimed eight days later that he had won the tournament, and claimed to have fought full contact with stylists of other martial arts such as Preying Mantis and Monkey Kung Fu, Kempo, Systema and mixed martial arts. To embellish his story he claimed injuries such as a crushed rib and a knock out molar tooth. These injuries are quite suspect. He claimed that he had broken an undefined number of ribs when “squished” by a MMA fighter. As practitioners of grappling styles such as wrestling or brazilian jujitsu are aware, getting crushed underneath people is very uncomfortable but rarely results in broken ribs, even when the opponent lands on the body from a hip toss. The knocked out tooth is even more suspect. He presented as “evidence” a photo of his mouth in which there is indeed a missing molar, but no bruising around the mouth or jaw. (http://www.ryoku.dk/images/teeth.jpg)

    A head butt powerful enough to knock out a molar through a mouth guard would result in a large amount of trauma around the surrounding area, none of this is visible in his photo however. It is unlikely that a mixed martial arts event that allowed the use of head-butts would be sanctioned by any medical or athletic authority.

    The ICMAUA is an organization which accepts videos of martial artists performing techniques either by themselves, with a partner or on a punch ball. The winner is awarded with a medal. They claim that the judgment criteria is:

    “Realism of technique; Rapidity; Equilibrium; Balance; Sharpness; Strength; Directivity of influence; Condition of one’s spirits; Look; Confidence of performance; Understanding of technique’s aim, etc.”

    No mention is made on the ICMAUA website of any actual combat between participants. There is no mention of combat rules, or venue for the event. If such an event were to be held, physical checkups of fighters would be required along with informed consent forms and waivers. No information about any of these things is to be found on the ICMAUA website. The members list of the site clearly shows Leo Berador as a member:

    “Leo Clausen
    Denmark
    International Combat Martial Arts Founders Union ICMAUA Lifetime Member.
    3rd Dan Kawachi Yon Tengu Ryu, Instructor, Examiner.
    6th Dan Ryoku Ryu, Soke, Instructor, Examiner.”

    Several other supposed masters of unverified ninjitsu styles are also listed as members.

    Information about the koga ninja from his website was plagarised from a Bujinkan newsletter called Ura & Omote June 1996 issue. Clausen’s version of the history of the koga ryu can be found here: http://berador.ryoku.dk/history.html and the original Ura & Omote article here: http://www.shinden.pp.fi/uraomote/96june.htm#koga

    Note that the Ura & Omote article lists Kawachi Yon Tengu Ryu as one the koga ninjitsu schools. It is likely that Clausen simply came across this article, picked out the name of a ninjitsu ryu that appealed to him, and started advertising himself as its grandmaster.

    Why is it that a soke of a koga ninjitsu school needs to copy, almost verbatim from a Bujinkan newsletter for historical information of his art? Surely he should be the reference point if he really was the headmaster of a koga ninjitsu ryu. Not to mention a personage of great interest to Japanese historians and koryu martial art researchers. The Danish government should make him a national living treasure! Oh, wait a second. They need proof.

    On his personal website, there is a picture of his supposed certificate of Kawachi Yon Tengu Ryu. His certificate reads:

    “Black Belt Certificate

    No: 001

    We are proud to certify that Leo Clausen is hereby awarded the International Rank of Black Belt 3rd Dan, in the art of Tengu Ryu. He/She has completed all the qualifications set by the Reviewing Board of this association. He/She has excelled in the special skill of Martial Arts and has acted according to the standards of this association.

    Date: 25/4 1995 / 1/1 2005 Soke
    Studio: Leo Clausen (Soke) 3 Ryoku
    Ryoko Ryu Karate-Do
    Master: Mishima Oyama Soke “

    The certificate is an obvious phony for the following reasons:

    - The certificate is in English not Japanese kanji.
    - The certificate is printed not handwritten.
    - There is no individual seal, stamp or signature of Soke "Ooyama" who supposedly awarded it.

    Several other reasons indicate the certificate is a sham :

    - Both Leo and Ooyama (which doesn’t appear to be a real Japanese name) are both listed as Soke on the certificate. Soke is an inherited title so once one is named Soke the other person doesn't use the title anymore if still alive, as the term generally means “Head of Household”.

    - The certificated his giving him a Sandan (3rd Dan) which is a low rank for a Soke, who would automatically be the highest ranking person in the system. (such as 10th dan)

    - The cert list Karatedo on it as well a Tengu Ryu. Karate is a Gendai (modern) art and has never used the term Soke. Why would karate be mentioned on a certificate for a ninjitsu ryu?

    - The handwriting is poorly done. Even when Japanese learn to write English they have very flowing strokes that characterize the kana they are normally writing. It appears as though a westerner attempted to use a brush in order to imitate a Japanese hand.


    Thanks to Evil Asia for information on the certificate and also TakeAnother and Kickcatcher, along with everyone who discussed the issue on http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28531.

    - Virus.
    Last edited by Virus; 11/16/2005 12:23am at .
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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 7:45am

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    Also to add that MISHIMA and OYAMA (I've never seen anyone use the romaji OOYAMA) are both FAMILY NAMES not given names. Unlike westerners they don't give a person two family names. And the ONLY reference found on this individual all points back to Leo.
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    Posted On:
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    He's taken the links to his site down, maybe someone has backup copies?
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    Posted On:
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    Though we had hoped to create a site and forum here that was free of the politics that tend to infect the miscellaneous Martial Arts sites on the web, that dream has proven to be impossible at this point. To many people lack the maturity to administrate that freedom, and abuse the rights given to them concerning this site. Nomatter how hospitable a person is, noone wants a complete stranger wrecking their house after having been invited in. That is the reason that we are now going to make verifications on all new members, aswell as sorting out the old ones if they do not respond to the mails sent to them.

    We apologize for these inconviniencecs, but they are forced upon us. We tried to share our thoughts freely with the persons that might find them of interest, but instead we where tread upon. We are therefore closing our sources again, atleast to the public. Those members that have proven trustworthy, will not be removed from the site. As for new members, they will from now on not be allowed to post before they have been screened by the admins.

    Sincerely,

    Leo 'Berador' Clausen.
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    Last edited by MrMcFu; 11/15/2005 8:39am at .
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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 8:44am


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    The picture says it all - he looks like a muppet!
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