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  1. Phrost is offline
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    4/12/2003 2:26pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Just watched the fight and had a few thoughts:

    1. Cro Cop IS a world class striker, and a certified bada$$.

    2. Sapp muscled him around like a rag doll in the clench. Had this been MMA, the match would have been much different. The only way I see Mirko pulling out a victory there is with a Noguiera-like guard, and/or an insanely tough chin.

    3. Having seen the punch, it didn't look like the thumb went in the eye. I'm a huge Sapp fan (because he's a character and I love the spectacle aspect of his persona, plus the potential to bring in new fans), but I'm starting to wonder about his toughness. It looked like he got an eye full of glove, and couldn't shake off the pain.

    4. MMA > K1. I like the sport of K1, but I can't watch it without saying to myself every 5 seconds "he wouldn't have gotten away with that in MMA without ending up mounted/tapping/eating a knee/etc", and this ruins the sport for me a bit.
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    Does anyone know the extent of Sapp's injuries? I've heard things from broken bones to a bruise...
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    Don't worry, Phrost, I had to fight the same thing last Sunday. One of the local bars had a 'Triple Threat' Fight Night (3 boxing matches, 3 kickboxing matches and 3 MMA matches). The 3 MMA matches were won by good friends of mine, they did really well (2 rear naked chokes and 1 triangle choke). Some people still don't realize that giving your opponent your back is really, really bad in MMA. Oh well, they learned why that night :)


    However, watching the boxing/kickboxing was weird, I kept waiting for someone to shoot for a takedown or go for a throw or something besides standing there and beating on each other. Working out with MMA fighters has definitely ruined me for any other type of fighting. I don't mind doing boxing or kick-boxing as part of training, but paying to watch that stuff seems like a waste of cash to me now. . .

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    kick boxing is boring, but Muay Thai KB fights are cool and far better than just kick boxing


    other then that i would watch boxing to see how pros react to punches

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    Some have said he is playing up the eye injury to be more severe than what it was.

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    that was an eye injury?
    i don't "see" how....

    he did take a left toe hard on the ribs....
    he totally cringed and froze up....
    then a not hard punch to the face and he toppled

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    Phorst post this in general discussion, more poeple wll see it.

    Main reason Crcop one is because he specializes in Boxing, any decent LHW/CW/HW boxer would down Sapp easily. ANother reason is that Crocop has had quite a bit of grappling/wrestlign training, so could probabl yget away more easily. Crocop is a world class striker definitely.

    I think he would do fine in an MMA match - he beat sakuraba, I think he'll be able to get it standing enough and still beat Sapp. Though Sapp will obviously have his chances boosted.


    Sapp did have his eye orbital Broken



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    I was Chatting with my Japanese friend (That lives in Japan :) ) While she was watching this. So I thought that that was pretty cool. Anyways...

    I Herd that both Sakuraba and Sapp and the similar injury. Crocop punched them around the Eye socket and a fragment of bone rubbed against their eye's. Ouch!

    When I visit my Japanese friend I might gete to see a pride event :)

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