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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike76
    I would suggest something like a Ruger Mark 2 bull barrel. It is a .22 cal target pistol. Lots of fun, very accurate and .22 ammo is a hell of a lot cheaper then heavier rounds.

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    I would suggest paint ball......or more sex.......or moving to a safer area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liokault
    Now were talking.
    In all seriousness, humans will kill each other no matter what reason. My ex business partner would tell me stories of knives, putting razors in their hats, in the collars of their jackets, etc etc...

    Parts of England do sound worse than miami with no A/C.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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    I always felt like using a gun was almost like cheating .

    I have shot random rifles , shotguns, and pistols over the years . Nothing with any seriousness besides passing time in the country ( that can get serious ) . Then I shot a 1911 with a couple modifications on it . I knew then guns are cheating ...


    I dont own one so thats all I can say about the topic ...
    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony

    Parts of England do sound worse than miami with no A/C.

    Yes, but there are probably 3 places in England, where if you were shot to death it would not be reported in the nationals press, and would not be on the front cover of local news papers for weeks. Its that rare.

    I am the only person I know in the UK who has been threatened with a fire arm (without being in the armed forces).

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    Quote Originally Posted by liokault
    Yes, but there are probably 3 places in England, where if you were shot to death it would not be reported in the nationals press, and would not be on the front cover of local news papers for weeks. Its that rare.

    I am the only person I know in the UK who has been threatened with a fire arm (without being in the armed forces).
    Shotguns are legal in the UK, is it not? My friend mentioned that he had several.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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    I think the 1911 is an excellent suggestion for your first handgun. You should be able to find a used one in good clean condition at a gun show for a good price.

    Personally, if I were only going to own one handgun, it would have to be a .45. My second choice would be the S&W .40.

    It would be worth it to also purchase a .22 simply to practice with. Don't underestimate the value of using a .22 to perfect the basics. I've shot competitively since I was 16, and I still fire off a box of .22 ammo almost every time I go to the range.

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    Colt 1911, .45

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    the ones i was looking at were the:
    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...-1&isFirearm=Y
    http://ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView...=3069&return=Y
    http://www.carl-walther.de/englisch/...efense-36.html
    and the top one on this http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr...stols_main.htm


    I really like the Ruger and the Walther... no one has mentioned anything about any walther's are they any good?
    Last edited by Japuma630; 11/08/2005 10:37pm at .

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    I don't know how it works in MD, but when I was in Texas I went to a range where you could rent guns. It was pretty sweet, I got to shoot almost every pistol I ever wanted except the Glock 18c. But i did get to shoot the MP5 so it made up for it. If you like 9mm check out the Sig and for .45 don't forget the H&K

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    **** all these suggestions.

    S&W 500. This is literally a hand-cannon. Not only that, your son won't be able to even lift it until he's like 13, but by then, he'll have already learned gun safety. If someone were running into your house to rob it and they saw that .50 caliber barrel pointed at them, shoot, if I were them, I'd probably drop on my knees and beg for mercy.

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