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  1. Killbot is offline

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    nightsticks/tonfa for FMA

    I've been thinking about getting a few nightsticks\tonfa for practicing FMA.

    I think baton work could really go along with alot of the holds and disarms we are taught...plus, its still just a stick.

    Any good recommendations on what materials are good. I do want good, fully functional ones, not just trainers...something that could help minimize a baseball bat to the arm or the like.


    Also, I've look about the internet for good books on police and military tactics and applications for these, but alot of it seems kind of shady. Any reliable sources?...Especially FMA related....


    Thanks folks.
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    If you really want to see some hardcore applications for the tonfa, check out the "mai sok" in krabi krabong. Salty Dog of the Dog Brothers has fought with them at Gatherings and used them quite effectively, IIRC.
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    Most baston are hardwood, 26-28" in lenght and something like 7/8" in diameter.
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    I've always wanted a pair of tonfa. After I buy a new jo, though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM
    Most baston are hardwood, 26-28" in lenght and something like 7/8" in diameter.


    yeh. I have like 4 pairs of rattan baston. That I knew. Thanks though. :icon_bigg

    I meant b-a-t-o-n....like nightstick, tonfa, the club cops carry with the little handle.

    I've seen wood, graphite, and some other polymers used. Anyone have an idea of what stands up well to an onslaught? What has good weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaosexmachina
    I've always wanted a pair of tonfa. After I buy a new jo, though....
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    Baton and Tonfa are two different things.

    I have an old police truncheon, which is also commonly known as a baton, or nightstick.
    Its just a stright stick with a molded grip handle.

    The cops (here, anyway) rarely carry Tonfa anymore, They use collapsable batons now.

    More traditional tonfa are pretty thick and heavy pieces of wood.
    I can also get used police tonfa from a military surplus store that are really light, and steel.

    What do you mean onslaught? Afraid of getting jumped by gangs of Ninjas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neildo
    Baton and Tonfa are two different things.
    I thought so. Batons are a single cudgel piece. I'm am thinking of whats referd to as nightstick....black rounded police tonfa. That what I'm interested in. Side handle and all that.


    I can also get used police tonfa from a military surplus store that are really light, and steel.
    Awsome. That's where I'm gonna start lookin'. Like this guys weapon :wbossman
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    What do you mean onslaught? Afraid of getting jumped by gangs of Ninjas?
    Dude, my neighborhood is populated by mostly ninjas...it gets a little rough sometimes. :tongue3:

    Actually I'm wondering what materials are gonna stand up to say, multiple whacks from a baseball bat, lead pipe...things I know a wooden tonfa can't take too much before they shatter.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killbot
    I thought so. Batons are a single cudgel piece. I'm am thinking of whats referd to as nightstick....black rounded police tonfa. That what I'm interested in. Side handle and all that.




    Awsome. That's where I'm gonna start lookin'. Like this guys weapon :wbossman
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    Dude, my neighborhood is populated by mostly ninjas...it gets a little rough sometimes. :tongue3:

    Actually I'm wondering what materials are gonna stand up to say, multiple whacks from a baseball bat, lead pipe...things I know a wooden tonfa can't take too much before they shatter.

    Thank you.

    **** dude, I love a good stickfight as much as the next wannabe, but if you're fighting someone with something heavier than light rattan (like say, a lead pipe) then that ****'s fucked up and requires massive amounts of get-the-****-out-fu.

    Seriously, I cannot possibly envision a scenario where you would just happen to have a tonfa and you're attacked by someone with a lead pipe.


    Let's look at the possibilities:

    1) You carry the tonfa everywhere just in case you're attacked by someone with a lead pipe. This makes me think you're a total nutter with delusions of paranoia.

    2) You plan on being attacked at home by someone with a lead pipe. This is equally fucked up because surely you can find a better weapon for home defense than a tonfa. WTF?

    3) You're trying to justify buying high quality weapons, when in reality, you have no real no need to own them. If this is the case, which I suspect it is...take if from me, someone who has dorkgasms over antique filipino swords -- there's no NEED to own a high quality version. However, spending your cash on this is no worse than spending it on any other luxery item.
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