Thread: kajukenbo or modern combatives
11/06/2005 12:29am, #11Originally Posted by patfromlogan
Hey, you gotta admit that in a field that is overflowing with ninjas, eye gouging stone cold killers, and people using their chi to stop opponents hearts from beating, its at least mildly amusing to run across a style called "Gaylord".
Lighten up - I'm certainly not questioning the style (what the hell do I know) just pointing out the inconguity of the name in such a macho discipline.
11/06/2005 10:42am, #12
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i don't see the point in laughing at someone who has probably forgotten more about martial arts than most students ever find out. EDIT: Omfgwtfbbq i was being a huge tool here sorry lolz.
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11/06/2005 10:47am, #13Originally Posted by DayOfTheJackass
Way to read for comprehension. Your name is appropriate though. :knob:
11/06/2005 11:41am, #14Originally Posted by DayOfTheJackass
11/06/2005 12:00pm, #15
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ha yeah guess I logged on whilst irritated about other things. Seriously though, kajukenbo seems to have a fascinting history (and before anyone tells me it's a young art, yes I know). I'm not sure why people diss it. Day of the jackass is about a jackass that was hired for a little job in france. It's by a dude name of frederick foreskin, look it up.
11/06/2005 1:26pm, #16Originally Posted by DayOfTheJackass
It's not really a young art when you look at modern systems.
Here are the founding dates of some popular martial arts:
Shito Ryu 1930
Wado Ryu 1939
Shorinji Kempo 1946
Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu 1947
Isshin Ryu 1954
Chung do kwon 1945
Tang Soo Do 1945
Chang moo kwon 1946
Tae Kwon Do 1955
Hwarang do 1960
Kuk Sul Won 1966
America (and it's territories)
Danzan Ryu 1930's
Kara-ho Kempo 1940's
American Kenpo 1950-60's
Karazenpo Go Shin jitsu 1958
Lima Lama 1968
Shaolin Kempo 1971
11/06/2005 2:33pm, #17
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Yep I hear ya. Guess I meant that I was aware its not ancient! I really shouldn't post in a situation like this, reading stuff online because my sleep patterns are screwed and I can't sleep... I've put a whole lot more 'stupid' onto teh internet tonight! EDIT: before i forget, great list! was wondering if there might be a source? I ask this not to check your cred but moreso out of my own curiousity, would like to check it out.
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11/06/2005 5:34pm, #18Originally Posted by DayOfTheJackass
Many of the dates come from the timelines in "The Original Martial Arts Encyclopedia" (1st edition titled "Martial Arts: Traditions, History, People") by John Corcoran & Emil Farkus.
11/06/2005 9:13pm, #19
Once again, thanks for dropping by, sir.
Originally Posted by Grashnak
As Meex put it (more or less), Kajukenbo has great schools and, uh, some that suck. I've been lucky to be able to work out in three that were good. The worst was taught by a 1st dan who was actually good and he was the one that took on a big biker dude who walked in and wanted to see "if this stuff works." It worked, biker got to brown in a couple years..."Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
11/07/2005 7:42am, #20Originally Posted by patfromlogan
1) too much groin strike eye gouge internal pointsparring bs out there. I got to meet a kaju student who had never sparred anything but point sparring.
2) I made a post at the kajukenbo forums in which I asked if anyone felt the differance between "old school" and "new school" martial arts. I pretty much got flamed for it and had my name searched for across the internet to find "incriminating" evidence I guess. After this ordeal I canceled my account to the forums and I've resigned myself to disgusted with these guy's attitudes. It went from me seeing and hearing about real problems in the system to guys pretty much saying "well here its differant here its this" and so on and so fourth.
I've reread it and I know I was trying my best to avoid conflict or offense but obviously it doesn't work.
I would also like to mention that they searched bullshido for my posts as well, and came up with a post I mentioned about the gaylord method - and how I also referenced that Sijo Emperado has stated he doesn't like when people take kajukenbo and call it their own with their own title. THIS IS WAS FROM AN ARTICLE POSTED ON KAJUKENBOINFO.COM. It was about this point I got aggrivated.
Anyways, I finally get fed up when I was told that at 3 years of training in kajukenbo I had no liberty to make any judgements on it. I really lost quite a bit of respect for these guys because I was obviously ASKING THEM to put my doubts to rest and instead I got what the thread shows.
Since then my opinion on kajukenbo has really taken a downhill spiral. My school rocks, our students are pretty good, my instructors are awesome... but when it comes to other school apperantly I am in no place to judge them in the name of kajukenbo so I'll judge them as a person who trains hard, a person who can turn on the TV and SEE people putting their all out in a fight as realistic as it can get, and a person who has met other martial artist. Kajukenbo is and probably always will be a TMA. Only time will tell if it becomes like most other tma's.