10/31/2005 7:42pm, #51
Really? Uh, I kind of thought that was JFS, and that Rigante was just some pud in Idaho....
10/31/2005 8:18pm, #52
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One more thing, what is considered white to this guy?
10/31/2005 8:36pm, #53
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You missed the point. The point is that 'races' are not clearly defined.
10/31/2005 8:40pm, #54Originally Posted by AthleticGirl
anyone that isn't clearly not white.
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10/31/2005 10:11pm, #55
****** is not the same thing as honkey. I've never seen a white person be insulted when they were seriously called a honkey. I'm talking about a sane white person, not the likes of Rigante. However, I have seen blacks get insulted when they were called *******. That kind of tells you something.
I mean, honkey? That's on par with being called a poo poo head. How you can even compare that to ****** is beyond me.
10/31/2005 11:05pm, #56Originally Posted by Camus
2. I concur; however, on a moral plateau, the fact that no such group exists doesn’t make the message any better reasoned or valid. Also, as a convention, if we allow someone to exclaim the extermination of one race, why not another? Determining whether or there is an actual threat posed can lead to a slippery slope (hehe, I love it I love it).
3. This is true; however, it is not exclusively the domain of white persons to hate and murder blacks. (i.e. Arabs in Sudan)
4. I wasn’t aware of that requirement, would you justify that? Racism is racism, whether you are the president of the United States or some blind hick in a moutain cabin, it’s the effects of said racism that vary.
Nevertheless, when we talk about racism, most of the time "institutionalized" is implied to precede the word. If that's too scary, try thinking of it this way: Both blacks and whites can be racist, but only whites have the ability to give their racism real consequences...witness Rigante's screwing over of the next few blacks he meets.
5. I would think that a Jewish person extolling said view would cause quite an uproar, not the least of which would include the Jewish community itself, whom I believe is quite sensitive to this issue, regardless of the race that it applies to.
The attention paid to this comment seems to me to be a cynical attempt to cop out of a real, meaningful analysis of societal, institutionalized racism against blacks (recent events having caused it to almost break out into the public eye again) with a barrage of BLKS CAN BE RASIST TOO! OMG! WTF! BBQ!.
Sure, blacks can be prejudiced, and pro NHB fighters can get KOd. The context, however, is the most important thing in each case. The Statement at the beggining of this thread is not equivalent to threats made by whites against blacks because it is pretty much toothless.
6. Words are words and we have slurs for both races, but likely due to the societal structure, history and context of those words, some have more power than others. You already answered this question in your previously stated opinions and I imagine you just intend this to lead the answerer to your same conclusion, which I don’t exactly hold.
Your elaboration on these points would be appreciated.
I was actually enjoying chewing on Rigante. I want him back so I can cum in his ear.
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10/31/2005 11:19pm, #57Originally Posted by hedgehogey
THis is the Spike Lee Definition of Racism. THe call for context is important, but if justice/equality/happiness/rainbows is going to happen then it is incumbant on everyone to call bullshit equaly whenever they see it.
Hey Hedgey, if three black guys savagely beat a white guy while calling him 'cracker', is it a hate crime?"You know what I like about you, William? You like guns AND meditation."
10/31/2005 11:59pm, #58
I want to dig up a world of trouble and am signing up for the race debate.
I'm white. So I hope this guy never gets serious influence on anything. I'd hate to be exterminated for my race. Just as black people were in previous generations. I don't know if this is his way of creating debate or if he's actually a complete crackpot, but I got an interesting reaction off myself with this clip.
I was actually offended by him saying that white people are *******. Now why in the world would I be offended by him saying that? "dduuuhh, ****** is a racial slur for black people ain't it?" I'd go as far as to say that the word "******" has nothing to do with black people. Like "Jew", doesn't really matter for neo-nazis. It's a word that has a connotation and denotation of hatred in it(Not "Jew" you motherfuckers). Apart from African-american culture adopting the word, trying to dumb it down to make it less effective, it's still intended to describe something that is worth less than animals. The correct word for a black person is Negro. And that simply means black! The hate that goes into "******" is a pretty sick denotation for any group of human beings simply because the pigment of their skin has been changed to be able to withstand extensive exposure to sunlight.
Edit: Actually it's the other way around isn't it? White people have been black once upon a time, and changed to white due to less exposure to the sun. Who'd 'a thunk it?More human than human is our motto.
11/01/2005 12:01am, #59Originally Posted by hedgehogey
Also, Aryan Nation and white supremacist groups get coverage all the damn time; is it honestly so hard to believe that having a black guy say the same thing- roughly- wouldn't get attention?
Seriously, what the ****.
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11/01/2005 1:30am, #60
I think if we all just had a lot more sex, things would be much easier. Babies of all sorts of mixed backgrounds would be the norm, and everyone would have a helluva time figuring out who to hate.
Oh, and then there is the cool bonus of having sex with a lot of different people.