View Poll Results: Is the Bible literal of not?

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  • No, aside from God birthin Jesus without need for the nasty, it's broad lessons and such

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
    No...Atheisms is the belief that god does not exist.

    The lack of faith is just agnosticism.
    The problem becomes that both definitions are usually used in reference to God. In otherwords, athiests supposedly believe in the nonexistence of God, whereas agnostics will only believe in God if there is proof, both of which are often used as a bullshit way to pigeonhole people who think the topic itself is beneath them into relation with God. Not saying you are doing that at all, but it's part of the common usage.

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    I think the words "I don't know" are the only things that a reasonable person can say about such things. Speculation, theorizing and even blind faith are common and quite natural, but should all be prefaced by that very statement.

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    I don't believe in God.

    Saying that I have "faith" that any type of "creator" couldn't possibly exist means that you don't clearly understand my thinking.

    The term "athiest" is a blanket term that is somewhat outdated.

    If you want to place me in a box to make yourself feel better then fine, but you are doing so at the expense of truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar
    I thought discionary.com was pretty clear.
    "One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods." -Dictionary.com


    Notice it does not say "One who has a fervent belief that a God or Gods could not possibly exist" which is what you are trying to twist it into.

    The second part of the definition must have been written by a Xtian because itis practically begging the question by supposing that God does in fact exist and Athiests are merely "denying" it.

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    Good point. The wording used makes it less of an issue of someone's subjective reality, as it does their interpretation of an objective one (presumably the same one in which said atheist is going to burn in hell for all eternity).

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    Again, that doesn't mean the framers of Christianity borrowed from other religions. It's just happenstance.
    This statement shows that youare a fucking idiot, blinded by faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haughty
    There's no reason to think it was anything other than coincidence. Similarities exist in life, from religion to politics to science. In some cases, we do see instances of intentional copying. In others, the similarities are the product of random chance. But when there's no evidence to show similarities as deliberate, we must acknowledge happenstance may have played the only role.

    Mr McDowell: Look... me and the McDonald's people got this little misunderstanding. See, they're McDonald's... I'm McDowell's. They got the Golden Arches, mine is the Golden Arcs. They got the Big Mac, I got the Big Mick. We both got two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles and onions, but their buns have sesame seeds. My buns have no seeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repulsive Monkey
    I think the words "I don't know" are the only things that a reasonable person can say about such things. Speculation, theorizing and even blind faith are common and quite natural, but should all be prefaced by that very statement.
    This is probably true enough about god in general, but legitimate opinions can be formed, especially in a historic context, about the various prophets. Objectively, many of them are just kooky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaiboxerken
    This statement shows that youare a fucking idiot, blinded by faith.
    Faith in what, idiot?

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    The idea that the bible didn't do any borrowing is hard to support. I was under the understanding that Job itself is very easily traced to prechristian sources, though the lesson of Job was more refined than in original sources, though not refined enough to weaken its message by returning Job's possessions to him in the end.

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