Batman Begins - Keysi fighting on DVD

**bwerb** · Posted On: 10/18/2005 9:51pm

Wow,

I just purchased the new Batman Begins DVD. There is a great segment on the supplemental DVD included in the two disk edition which shows some of the Keysi fighting techniques they used to create Batman's fighting style.

They also explained why they edited the fights to be so hard to follow...they were supposed to be from the criminal's perspective where Batman is just an "animal blur".

Very nice DVD special feature.

**plasmagoat** · Posted On: 10/19/2005 4:13am

Why did they bother with a fighting style? You can't see anything at all during the fights. It sounds like just a really lame excuse that the fights were made that way on purpose. Batman Begins is a terrific movie, but they should have made the fights watchable.

**Jekyll** · Posted On: 10/19/2005 8:53am

Isn't Keysi fighting the one you see in Martial arts magazines from time to time?
Vaugely MMA flavored techniques strung into choreographed sequences suitabe for the street.

**bwerb** · Posted On: 10/19/2005 9:07am

Actually, watching the DVD extras, then going back to watch the film fights, you see a great deal more than you first noticed. It is mainly the Batman vs. Henchmen/street thug fights which are a total blur. The Bruce Wayne vs. prisoners, Bruce Wayne vs. Ninjas etc. are much easier to follow.

I have no idea about Keysi advertising, I don't read MA magazines at all. The system seemed to concentrate on using elbows and hammer fists and headbutts. I tried to view their website but it's down for a re-vamp of some sort.

Anyone else watch the DVD yet?

**Xiangfei** · Posted On: 10/19/2005 4:02pm

It seems to be a bit fashionable these days to point out in big shiny letters whatever martial art influenced whichever movie is currently out. I recall when Kill Bill was all the rage, the media pushed that style... where you hit each other with rubber samurai swords (I forget the name). And when that godawful J LO movie came out, when she beats up her husband, the magazines couldn't get enough about how it was Krav Maga she used. Wether or not she did is irrelevant, but I bet it boosted their student intake for a month. Ditto for Ong-Bak and muay thai.

**Peter H.** · Posted On: 10/19/2005 4:20pm

I blame it on the Hunted and Arnis. Tommy Lee Jones could kick anyone's ass regardless just by looking at them.

**Letum** · Posted On: 10/19/2005 4:23pm

Originally Posted by Peter H.

I blame it on the Hunted and Arnis. Tommy Lee Jones could kick anyone's ass regardless just by looking at them.

Apart from Sean Connery, no man af woman born can defeat Sean Connery.

Also, doesn't Dan Inosanto have something to do with KEYSI?

**bwerb** · Posted On: 10/20/2005 12:04am

The more I watch it...the more it looks like Arnis/Kali with a new name...everything old is new again.

**OZZ** · Posted On: 10/20/2005 9:38pm

I am just about to sit down and watch the dvd, my wife got me it yesterday. I will check that segment out.

**AlexSchira** · Posted On: 10/20/2005 10:27pm

...I was trying to FORGET about J-Lo and her two-week course in Krav...Between her training completely and perfectly mirroring the actual 'fight' at the end, and the fact she does it while wearing fancy red hand-wraps. Yeah. She killed the guy, wearing hand-wraps. How much did Everlast pay for that?
I'm sure Krav Maga has its points, even though its reliance on plain out dirty techniques makes it a bit taboo to the fist-happy US of A. But...I mean, the entire movie came down to her having to kill her forcefully psychotic husband. Breaking in, hiding all his weapons and even the kitchen knives, so she could push him off a ledge. So it looks like self defense, she gets off scratch-free legally and complexion wise.
...so...shanking a person with a butter knife, jail time. Bad. He'll just come back from the dead and sue. Pushing him off a ledge wearing Everlast Brand red handwraps in a Nike brand stealth outfit, brand name happy ending.
Boxing has Rocky III. And now, Kravers have 'Enough' featuring J-Lo and her EVERLAST hand wraps.
...son of a...they should be paying ME for even mentioning the freakin' movie.
Begins was my movie of the year. I used to be into the comics, and the cast just did it for me. As much as ninjutsu haunts me from every corner of the internet, I liked the fact Bruce fights like a cop. A well educated, well trained, cop. But the plain yet extremely effective style is masked by the costume and the whole ninja thing.
They really milk the fear references, but think about it. An extremely fast moving, possibly not human bat creature jumps at you from a shadow. Are you going to take out a graph sheet and critique his BJJ influence compared to the MMA trend?
No. You scream and get hit with something. It's realistic, sadly enough. But it's better than the whole '...how do they not know Clark is Superman with glasses?' thing from the Chris Reeves days.