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    You are distracted my minutia, my friend.

    You need to grasp the greater principles of what you're undertaking.

    Progressive resistance "works"...period.

    It'll "work" with 6x5, 4x5, 4x7, 3x8, 15x3, 1x6.

    So ask yourself....what makes that fifth set magical? Or the fifth rep for that matter? Or ANY given number?

    In fact...ask yourself what a rep is. What makes it so?

    How about rest between sets? What precisely are you trying to accomplish there?

    I mean, there's a reason for all this stuff right? Exercise is a science, right? Not a whimsy, frolic, or fancy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeinHaar
    You are distracted my minutia, my friend.

    You need to grasp the greater principles of what you're undertaking.

    Progressive resistance "works"...period.

    It'll "work" with 6x5, 4x5, 4x7, 3x8, 15x3, 1x6.

    So ask yourself....what makes that fifth set magical? Or the fifth rep for that matter? Or ANY given number?

    In fact...ask yourself what a rep is. What makes it so?

    How about rest between sets? What precisely are you trying to accomplish there?

    I mean, there's a reason for all this stuff right? Exercise is a sciene, right? Not a whimsy...or a fancy?

    You should find the answers aren't as obvious as they seem to be.

    Oh oh...someone brought out the "logic".
    FOR SHAME !!!!

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    Logic is good for my speed-strength and cardio. Not so much my raw power, or strength-endurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeinHaar
    Logic is good for my speed-strength and cardio. Not so much my raw power, or strength-endurance.

    Not sure what you mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeinHaar
    Logic is good for my speed-strength and cardio. Not so much my raw power, or strength-endurance.
    But is your logic sport-specific? :tellme:

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    I've been doing the bill starr's 5x5 routine for a while and getting excellent gains.

    way I'm doing it, first set you do 20lbs less than your 5 rep max, then each set add 5 lbs. On monday do up to your 5 rep max, on wednesday do lighter weights and isolated exercises, then on friday do the 5x5 sets you did monday, starting at 5 lbs heavier than you did on monday. repeat weekly for strength gains.
    I think it was two ninjas taped together, to make one GIANT NINJA!!!!

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    my routine looks like this
    Day1: Deadlifts 5X5 (2 warm up sets)
    Bench press 5X5 (2 warm up sets)
    2 to 3 sets anything i wanted to focus on (not 5x5) maybe 8reps?
    Day 2: MA training
    Day 3: Power cleans(5x5)
    Incline bench press(5x5)
    Pullups
    Day4: MA training...etc

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    Logic can be clouded where scientific knowledge is lacking or uncertain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeinHaar
    You are distracted my minutia, my friend.

    You need to grasp the greater principles of what you're undertaking.

    Progressive resistance "works"...period.

    It'll "work" with 6x5, 4x5, 4x7, 3x8, 15x3, 1x6.

    So ask yourself....what makes that fifth set magical? Or the fifth rep for that matter? Or ANY given number?

    In fact...ask yourself what a rep is. What makes it so?

    How about rest between sets? What precisely are you trying to accomplish there?

    I mean, there's a reason for all this stuff right? Exercise is a science, right? Not a whimsy, frolic, or fancy?
    Perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeinHaar
    You are distracted my minutia, my friend.

    You need to grasp the greater principles of what you're undertaking.

    Progressive resistance "works"...period.

    It'll "work" with 6x5, 4x5, 4x7, 3x8, 15x3, 1x6.

    So ask yourself....what makes that fifth set magical? Or the fifth rep for that matter? Or ANY given number?

    In fact...ask yourself what a rep is. What makes it so?

    How about rest between sets? What precisely are you trying to accomplish there?

    I mean, there's a reason for all this stuff right? Exercise is a science, right? Not a whimsy, frolic, or fancy?
    I personally feel it's a good setup due to the fact that it is low enough to allow you to use about 70-80% 1RM for optimal strength gains yet still provides enough stimulation for muscular growth. This is not a fact, just my own observation, but 5x5 seems to be one of the best for my own individual needs. I have done as high as 8x5 as well, but my best gains seem to be in that happy medium.

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