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    That was a VERY stupid post Re4.

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    Osiris: My style field says TKD AND BJJ. Yeah I'm in ok shape, though its more leg strength than arm strength; for BJJ classes we do bridging as a basic excercise, but shoulder, not neck; my BJJ instructor also does Yoga, and his wife instructs Yoga classes, so he would be a good qualified person to ask about that sort of thing; where the hell do you get to talking about whether I'm man enough to do warmups? What does that have to do with anything? I was worried about injuring the neck by placing most of my weight on it for a bridge, so I said I'd ask my instructor about it; seems pretty damn reasonable to me.

    In other news, I have determined that Osiris is an emu. Have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    It takes effort to get higher, but thats the point of the stretch in the first place.
    Yeah that's exactly what I meant
    Legendary Street Fighter

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    Neck cranks are fun.

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    See? Thank you. Neck cranks Rule!

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    I neck cranked a guy from scarf hold in a tournament today.

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    SWEET! Where did you place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FingazofDeath
    SWEET! Where did you place?
    2nd no gi, 3rd gi. The guys running the tournament out of nowhere decided to allow everything besides kneebars and heelhooks. So I suddenly got a bunch of my arsenal back (neck cranks, outside toe holds, and wristlocks). It was pretty sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kengou
    In other news, I have determined that Osiris is an emu.
    Wow, the truth is out, Osiris, you aren't really the Egyptian God of the Dead:


    You are an odd looking bird! Who would have thought??????? Well the truth hurts, doesn't it?

    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez

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    Hey Kengou.

    Firstly, the fact that the guy is resorting to such a cheap sub from under mount is a pretty good sign, overall. If that really is the best he can come up with in that situation, then just give yourself a few months BJJ training and you'll be walking all over him. If I find myself rolling with someone bigger and more experienced than I am, I find it encouraging when they start using brute-force tactics and the sort of bullying this guy is using - obviously I'm coming along if they are unable to rely on technique to submit me. (Or they're in a bad mood that day.) But no experienced practicioner would use anything as dumb as what you're describin here.

    Anyways, the guy needs desperately to be armbared for stretching his arms out like that from the bottom, but if you think he was controlling you enough where you didn't have the mobility to pull that off, just frame your arm and shove the guy's neck away. That's a staple of BJJ headlock defenses.

    If the term is unfamiliar to you, basically just imagine this:
    1. Work your left forearm onto the guy's neck.
    2. Grab your left wrist with your right hand.
    3. Shove. Hard. Try to keep your left forearm parallel with the ground so all the force is going into his throat.

    Now, the harder he pulls on the back of your neck, the more force he's applying to his own throat. I'd have to guess the back of your neck can take about ten times the force as the front of his, so it's very unlikely he'll try to hold on.

    (Then armbar him.)

    In fact, looking through my copy of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu : Theory and Technique, the same basic idea is presented on page 84.

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