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    Boxer's Fracture (Metacarpal Neck)



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    - metacarpal neck frx involving little finger;
    - only collateral ligaments, remain attached to the proximal phalanx, & therefore metacarpal head is freed from any proximal stabilizing influence;
    - metacarpal head tilts volarly causing joint to lie in hyperextension & collateral ligaments become slack;
    - if joint is allowed to remain in hyperextension, collateral ligaments will shorten, leading to limited MCP flexion;
    - little finger CMC articulation allows flexion extension arc of 20-30 deg in addition to a rotatory motion facilitating little finger opposition to thumb;
    - ring metacarpal provides 10-15 deg of mobility;
    from:http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/...acarpal_neck_1

    Technically it has to involve the 5th metacarpal to be t3h r3al box3rs fracture, but yes, fracturing any metacarpal by punching is possible. We're both right..in a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. No
    Boxer's Fracture (Metacarpal Neck)





    from:http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/...acarpal_neck_1

    Technically it has to involve the 5th metacarpal to be t3h r3al box3rs fracture, but yes, fracturing any metacarpal by punching is possible. We're both right..in a way.

    Probably the reason why that fracture in particular is called a boxer's fracture, is because boxers are the ones most commonly punching stuff and therefor most commonly busting their hands. It also happens to be part of the technique in boxing to hit with that specific part of your hand, so probably the most common fracture of that type is in that specific area directly resulting from punching someone in the skull. This is all supposition of course, but it seems to me that it's associated with that way of punching because that's the way boxer's punch, and are the most commonly inflicted, rather than this method of punching being the most prone to hand breakage.
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    I see your point. Wasn't really disputing that.

    I think most boxer's fractures happen however, when an inebriated young male gets frustrated and tries to vent his negative vibrations by punching a wall/lamp-post/ hard skulled acquaintance.

    I bet a an average boxer has a higher chance of suffering a boxer's fracture, than a run of the mill junior citizen, but the ever dwindling number of practitioners of this noble art are greatly overshadowed by the masses of easily frustrated young males.
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    ok, just don't be steppin' to boxing cuz BOXING RULES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. No
    I see your point. Wasn't really disputing that.

    I think most boxer's fractures happen however, when an inebriated young male gets frustrated and tries to vent his negative vibrations by punching a wall/lamp-post/ hard skulled acquaintance.

    I bet a an average boxer has a higher chance of suffering a boxer's fracture, than a run of the mill junior citizen, but the ever dwindling number of practitioners of this noble art are greatly overshadowed by the masses of easily frustrated young males.
    Considering the force a Boxer would be punching with against random inebriated male I would say yes, the Boxer has a greater chance of suffering said fracture.

    Though I've rarely actually got one, and I street fight more than the average moron (thats right, I'm an above average moron, who wants me to sign their ass?)

    As I said earlier though, conditioning, good technique and actually hitting the right part helps though.
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    What your feet do is every bit as important as what your hands are doing. You shouldnít stand in one place while you shadowbox. I know your videography resources are limited; but I would say that one cannot completely judge a video like this without seeing your footwork.

    For me, shadowboxing isnít so much throwing combos one after another, as fighting an imaginary opponent. So Iím not just attacking, but defending and evading, constantly circling. Stitch attacks to blocks to develop counterpunching. Also I donít think there was a single body shot... Crash in and throw some left hooks to the liver.
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