Thread: Chinese Ninja's?
10/07/2005 9:31pm, #1
Was there ever any Chinese equivalent of Japanese Ninja's?
I know that every country has always had assassins of some sort, just wasn't sure if there was particular name for the Chinese ones?
10/08/2005 5:26am, #2
They were called Lin Kuei. I am one. Now I've told you I have to kill you.
10/08/2005 8:05pm, #3Originally Posted by Cullion
Can't you just attack my website first??
Thanks for the info though!
10/08/2005 8:45pm, #4
In the entire sum of human history, wherever you find a conventional army, employing conventional warfare techniques of their respective era and region; you will have unconventional warfare.
Thieves, assassins, spies, scouts, call them what you will, EVERY culture has had them. The ninja have been overly romanticized in print and film, to the point that the modern perception of the unconventional warriors of feudal Japan is so moronically skewed as to be unrecognizable.
So the answer is yes.And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".
--Scrolls of Bujutsu: Chapter 5 vs 10-14.
10/08/2005 10:18pm, #5
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Yush he was fucking with you. There were no Lin Kuei it was made up by a white guy pretending to be asian, probably Ashida Kim again.______
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10/09/2005 12:19am, #6Originally Posted by EVIL ASIA
Just out of interest, what is the chinese (mandarin or cantonese) word for assassin?
Oh and btw, i'm not going to use this information to start my own Yush Lin Kuie Fu just so you know :qleft1:
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10/09/2005 5:56am, #7
The mandarin word for assasin is, "ci ke".
Phonetically, suh-kuh, sort of. that's about as close as i can get without going into tone usage in sino languages.A lie gets half-way around the world before the truth has time to get it's pants on. - Winston Churchhill
10/09/2005 8:28pm, #8Originally Posted by chris_ketchens
10/09/2005 11:04pm, #9
Originally Posted by Yush
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It is basiccally a book about how all the Chi tricks are performed to trick people, breaking breaks with a hammer on your head, having chop sticks cut against your chest with a sword, and snapping steel wire around your chest by inhaling. All the stuff we love here at Bullshido, except its that WT Leung Ting guy again....
An intersting point in the book. These vagabounds cultivated a myth that they could fly, or kill with a touch, or had magic chi shields and all that nonesense. Then, they would take advantage of this when they could to help cultivate the myth. Classic con artists, I will give an example.
They carried wire ropes wrapped in their belt sash. If being chased, they might use the wire to make a rope to climb a high wall. Instead of just getting away, they might hide the wire, wait untill the pursuers were close and then tell them, "look I jumped up here so easy". The pursuers would retell the tale that they, "saw them jump up there themselves". This then feed the myth that they had super powers.
Ting also mentions that he learned all this stuff from a street market performer, and that these Vagabonds are more like Gypsys then Ninjas, but still filled a coresponding role. This performer who taught Leung these tricks had students that thought they where learning real Chi secrets. They paid alot of money to rub potions all over their bodys and sit and meditate on Chi power, never knowing that it was all a trick. Then the Teacher would slice a chop stick against their chest with an axe or break bricks on them while they lay on a bed of nails or whatever.
They would then think it was their chi sheild and not the masters skills with the slegde hammer that made the trick work....Ha!
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10/19/2005 9:13am, #10
It's also worth noting that a "ci ke" is nothing like a "ninja". The Chinese think that ninjas are just as cool as we think they are. They have separate words for "assasin" vs. "ninja". The "assasins" (ci ke) in Chinese fantasy are not typically so secretive. They often just walk up to the target in question and chop their heads off. Often they duel. It depends on how far into fantasy land you want to go. I'm pretty sure Jet Li was a "ci ke" in "Hero". In any case, "ninja" are a very specifically Japanese fiction and "ci ke" are more "conventional" assasins like we think of in the west. Poison. Get close enough with a weapon. No magic powers. No smoke bombs or whatever. A lot of the time, the ficitonal ones are like Rambo or maybe the terminator. They walk in single handedly just taking out guards left and right cleaving a path of blood all the way to their target.Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
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