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  1. Blue Collar is offline

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    10/03/2005 5:54am


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    "Native" Martial Arts

    Does anyone have any information on the legitemacy of the Native American fighting arts as taught by Robert Redfeather and Adrian Roman? They both sound like a money manking scam to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Method2Madness
    Yep. Thanks for the links, too. It seems that there is much more Bullshido there that meets the eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Collar
    Yep. Thanks for the links, too. It seems that there is much more Bullshido there that meets the eye.
    seems like it
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    I'm curious as to the authenticity of his "Apache knifefighting". The photos in the link you posted speaks volumes about the kind of "master" Redfeather may be.
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    I can't say that I know any more then I have read on these two sites. I am suspicious of anyone who claims to know a native art since it isnít like the Apache wrote their system down, created forms, or are really mentioned anywhere in a historical sense. I am sure they had a fighting system, whether these gentlemen are teaching THAT system seems bullshido.

    I could claim that i know a viking system of martial arts since my family is decended form the norse who took over part of england that would rock :viking:
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    Those were my thoughts exactly.
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    10/03/2005 9:22am


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    I already know thah Adrian Roman is a bullshitter from his black-belt-by-mail program. His Native American martial arts system is probably bull **** too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Planktime
    I can't say that I know any more then I have read on these two sites. I am suspicious of anyone who claims to know a native art since it isn’t like the Apache wrote their system down, created forms, or are really mentioned anywhere in a historical sense. I am sure they had a fighting system, whether these gentlemen are teaching THAT system seems bullshido.

    I could claim that i know a viking system of martial arts since my family is decended form the norse who took over part of england that would rock :viking:
    I don't see any blatant Bullshido from those links. All I see is a guy that likes to get photos with B (or C-level) actors and some prominent martial arts masters -- and his claims seem reasonably legit, with the exception of the apache knife-fighting system. However, I don't find it completely unbelieveable that a) such a system might exist; and b) that he may have learned it. If such a system exists, why would it be so hard to believe that he learned it? It's likely not a very old system.... probably much younger than those 1000-year old martial arts....

    Anyway -- like I said -- I don't see any *blatant* Bullshido -- just some information that raises questions.

    -daGorilla
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    10/03/2005 9:27am


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    i highly doubt that this guy has the real Native American martial arts. I know that native american warriors trained in wrestling, like most cultures do, but i don't think they had a systemized martial art.
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