Is Mark Hatmaker legit/for real?!?

**DirtyDutch** · Posted On: 9/30/2005 8:17pm

I see this guy has a million grappling books, videos, etc. has he ever fought? Anything verifiable? And who does he train w/ or did he? Is this guy legit or not?

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 9/30/2005 8:22pm

he's not on sherdog at least

**Draven** · Posted On: 9/30/2005 8:32pm

Just because someone hasn´t fought professional MMA fights that doesn´t make him a bad teacher.

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 9/30/2005 8:36pm

Originally Posted by RogueSamurai

Just because someone hasn´t fought professional MMA fights that doesn´t make him a bad teacher.

if they're teaching people how to fight MMA, it sure doesn't help. But who knows. All I can tell is that he's not on sherdog, which doesn't necessarily mean anything (tho it raises a redflag for his having valid MMA experience)

**broken fingers** · Posted On: 9/30/2005 9:55pm

I bet if you look through one of his books, there will be a list of credentials.

there is always something there.

about the author type stuff...

**broken fingers** · Posted On: 9/30/2005 9:56pm

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I miss having the cow as my avatar

**bushi51** · Posted On: 9/30/2005 11:26pm

Most fighters make shitty instructors. They end up teaching you their game instead of leading you to yours. JMO.

**Honor** · Posted On: 10/01/2005 2:53am

Personally I'm not impressed with the way he teaches. The techniques are decent, but the way that they are drilled are not

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 10/01/2005 3:02am

Originally Posted by bushi51

Most fighters make shitty instructors. They end up teaching you their game instead of leading you to yours. JMO.

Ya know, I really haven't had a single instructor that WASN'T a fighter since I did TKD. When I look at instructors I look at what kind of record they have for either putting out solid fighters or what kind of record they themselves have. If they DON'T have much or any experience actually fighting I'd question their level of expertise on the matter, since they don't really KNOW for a fact that their **** works being that they haven't tested it out themselves. I would also say that the "teaching you their game instead of leading you to yours" point is kind of bs, since you need to have some sort of solid base of how to fight before you can start doing things your own way.

**Scribbly** · Posted On: 10/01/2005 4:49pm

(based on his videos...) He seems like a compentant teacher. Take his advice like the friendly highschool wrestling coach. It's a bit of a gamble with his information, which I kind of enjoy. It tends to be more of a "find-out-for-yourself" nature instead of gospel. For example his Beyond Brazilian JuJitsu video raises decent questions about technique, and he'll proceed to show counters that just plain don't work, but are still interesting to experiment with.

I wouldn't ever recommend buying his material, but if you have some freetime to kill it's not the worst way to do it.