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  1. Judah Maccabee is offline
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    supporting memberhall of fameBullshido Newbie
     Style: Krav / (Kick)Boxing / BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Quick question about weights followed by MA training

    Does this sound sustainable:

    Lifting weights for 40 minutes in the afternoon (12, 1PM) 2-3 days a week

    Training MA for at least 90 minutes in the evening (6:30PM at the earliest) 4-5 days a week.

    Any brief recommendations for diet in between the times?

    Fitness goals are to drop 10lbs in 2 months, improve MA-related strength and flexibility, and increase MA skills.
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    Factoring recovery times into your MA training schedule is always a pain in the ass. At the end of the day, I figure that skill development comes first, so go with that, however, if -- during your MA classes -- there's any way to de-emphasize the muscles that you have used for strength training, then you'll probably make better gains.

    I.e. Legs day followed by bagwork; Chest/back day followed by kicks, sweeps, etc.

    A nice thought. Probably not entirely practical.
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    I do something similar to what you're doing only I condition in the morning 5 days a week. With MMA class in the evening usually 3 - 5 days a week depending on time constraints. As long as you make sure your calorie intake is good, you eat things that are good for you, and you stay mentally focused it isn't a problem. But don't get me wrong the two times a day program is really easy to burn out on if you're not careful.
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    Are you lifting the weights to get bigger, stronger or for endurance ?
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    "40 minutes" means absoloutely nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeinHaar
    "40 minutes" means absoloutely nothing.
    I don't know what exactly you mean by that. You can do supersets, circuits and compound moves and get a full workout in no time. But if your telling him that he shouldn't worry about it, then you are correct.

    And to the topic creator, I would recommend meal replacement bars, Accelorade(it's better than Gatorade), protein shakes, and MRE's. That way you can quickly gain back nutrients and a optimal carb to protein ratio.
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    What he could be doing in the 40 minutes is not explained at all. There is not enough information given for anyone to have a clear idea of what he's doing.
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    he should be doing some power cleans, and high pulls and other explosive O lifts and compound moves and such.
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     Style: Triton (MMA)

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If you are using your weightlifting time to compliment your fighting then you should be fine. If you are trying to be a bodybuilder and a martial artist, you need to pick one otherwise both will suffer.
  10. Judah Maccabee is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    The fitness center has dumbbells, racks for bench press/squat/etc, a number of "Nautilus" machines, and cardio equipment.

    My ~40 minutes would likely be spent on weight-lifting to improve my MA, plus stretching & warmup. I'm not doing anything yet, but I plan on lifting for weight loss and muscular balance/endurance. For example, my hip muscles are the weak point in my kicks due to both strength and flexibility. I'm also concerned about balance in my shoulder joint, so I have SPRI rubber resistance bands and a exercise plan from Sean Cochran's "Complete Conditioning for Martial Arts" to take care of that.

    My main concern is if I do a lifting plan such as 4 sets, 6 reps to near-failure for lifting, with martial arts coming about 6 hours later in the day, if that seems sustainable.
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