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  1. Beatdown Richie is offline
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    9/20/2005 7:47am

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    TUF Ep. 5

    Looks like no one even wants to talk about this debacle!?

    The fight was horrible indeed. When your opponent has both hands down, and you're confident in your ground game, how fucking hard can it be to step in and try to hit him?
    There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
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    Horrible episode, horrible effort. They both deserve to be beat with a damn baseball bat after wasting everyones time.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I actually thought the show itself was decent, but the fight was pretty much exactly what Dana White said. Definitely one of the worst fights I have ever seen. I'm surprised White didn't cut them both for that bullshit.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Rashad shows potential though. The guy's quick as hell. He just needs to be more aggressive.
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    I'm glad to see that Matt is going to talk to Rashad about the stupid head waiving **** he was doing int he ring... everytime he did that i just wanted him to get the shitknocked out of him...
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    You know how they get $5000 for winning by KO or sub? They should get fined 5000 each for that snoozefest.


    I think Rashad's puffy nipples slowed him down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    Rashad shows potential though. The guy's quick as hell. He just needs to be more aggressive.
    He was impressive, I've never seen the Curly Shuffle used in MMA competition before. "Sointenly!"
    Mauro: Coming into the ring now is Giant Silva. 7 foot 2, 385 lbs, making his debut in Pride.
    Bas: Wow, that is one big guy!
    Mauro: He must have an enormous Johnson!
    Bas: Ur…I suppose.
    Mauro: What are his keys to victory here in the Pride ring tonight?
    Bas: Well I think he needs to use his reach, avoid Heaths takedowns, and try to use his size to overpower him.
    Mauro: I mean, imagine the size of that thing!
    Bas: Now Heath is coming into the ring…
    Mauro: Do women really like them that big? Doesn’t it hurt?
    Bas: I really wouldn’t know.
    Mauro: I’m starting to feel a little insecure.
    Bas: Let’s just talk about the fight.
    Mauro: You’re right, el Basito. What are Heaths keys to winning here tonight. What does he have to do? What are his strategies for emerging victorious here in the Saitama Super Arena tonight?
    Bas: Well, the first thing…
    Mauro: My wife says she doesn’t like them too big, that it’s all about how you use it.
    Bas: That’s not what she told me.
  8. lawdog is offline

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    I've never like hot-dogging, but I think Rashad was doing it for a purpose.

    I agree the fight was pretty sucky, but Dana was a little hard on Rashad. He didn't show much talent, other than athleticism, but I think he actually fought a smart fight.

    He probably felt like he would be outclassed on the mat so wanted to be sure to keep it standing, especially since Tom has a bad knee and doesn't move well. He also seems to be a counter puncher (I use puncher loosely), and Tom showed no intention to engage. I think a lot of the hot-dogging crap was an attempt to draw Tom in and make him engage. Either that or he was just hoping to stand out in order to self promote.

    It might also be that Rashad knew Tom well enough to know that the antics would psyche him out, and it appears that maybe they did. Tom must have been way off his game (no way he could have been that passive normally), so maybe what Rashad was doing worked on that level. After Tom threw that elbow to the head and rashad was jerking his head front to back, Tom was just standing there staring at him like he had no idea what to do. Sometimes that stuff works, especially when you're extremely athletic. Ali used it well.

    At least they showed a little more training this episode, but I still wish they'd get rid of the hide n' go seek games and show more interesting stuff.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Dana's also got really high expectations for the fights after last season, especially after the Griffen-Bonner fight.

    If he wants aggressive, knucklebusting fights he needs to pick those kinds of fighters for the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawdog
    I've never like hot-dogging, but I think Rashad was doing it for a purpose.

    I agree the fight was pretty sucky, but Dana was a little hard on Rashad. He didn't show much talent, other than athleticism, but I think he actually fought a smart fight.

    He probably felt like he would be outclassed on the mat so wanted to be sure to keep it standing, especially since Tom has a bad knee and doesn't move well. He also seems to be a counter puncher (I use puncher loosely), and Tom showed no intention to engage. I think a lot of the hot-dogging crap was an attempt to draw Tom in and make him engage.
    Not to mention, every time he backed up, he forced Tom to come forward, which forced him to walk on his bad knee.

    Now, why he wasn't throwing leg kicks is anyone's guess.
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