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  1. danno is offline
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    cycling for martial arts

    just wondering what people thought of cycling in terms of how usefull it is for martial artists. i quite enjoy the occasional bike ride, and i'm thinking of doing it more regularly for longer distances to supplement my training.

    also, how does cycling compare to running?
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    I like to go bicycling much as I can. Besides it being a good way to unwind I find it does very little to help my cardio.I do find it works my legs.I;ve been doing it for a long time so I think thats the reason why I have big legs.
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    its greta for cardio and leg strength but it screws up flexibilty. so always streach as well
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    As far as cardio goes, biking falls into the realm of the non-specific -- a lot like running. That means that there are cardio benefits to be gained in a general sense, such as lowered resting heart rate and perhaps mildy increased recovery times; however, it's nowhere near as good for MMA as doing MMA.

    There are things you can do to increase specicifity, such as interval-style training (sprint for the length of a round, lower intensity for one minute, rinse and repeat). This type of training will provide a lot more carry-over.

    The advantages to biking include the fact that -- barring collisions -- it's easier on your body than jogging or MA, and that it's something you probably can do when you have an upper-body injury that needs rest. It's clear that not nearly enough people give themselves adequate time to heal when they are injured -- something that seems especially ridiculous when you realize that there alternative ways to condition.
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    I think I heard somewhere that if you bike for a very long time, your bone density in your legs decreases. Something not for MA-ists. :(

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    First of all, I'd like to see that specific study. Second of all, I strongly suspect that, if that claim is accurate at all, it's only for long-distance cyclists. To counter any potential for loss in bone density for martial artists, I would suggest doing . . . you know, like martial arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danno
    just wondering what people thought of cycling in terms of how usefull it is for martial artists. i quite enjoy the occasional bike ride, and i'm thinking of doing it more regularly for longer distances to supplement my training.
    IIRC you burn about a quarter of the calories that you would crossing the same distance on foot, because bicycles are more efficient (that's the whole point of them as a mode of transport). It's much lower impact, so better for your joints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poop-Loops
    I think I heard somewhere that if you bike for a very long time, your bone density in your legs decreases. Something not for MA-ists. :(

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    No, that's not true. Cycling does not increase bone density as much as running, skipping rope, lifting, or other impact or weight bearing activities, but it does not decrease it.

    Cycling is certainly no substitute for actual MA training, and I would never rely on it for my only cardio training, however, it is excellent for cross training for MA, provided it's done correctly. Cycling is one of the best forms of general cardio conditioning. Any time you're using your legs to that extent, you can get a great cardio workout. I swim and cycle, and I actually get a much better cardio workout from cycling than from swimming.

    I'm not talking about a relaxing jaunt on your beach cruiser with a six pack in the basket on your handlebars. It should be a high intensity activity, and can be done similar to fartlek if you choose. Best if you have an actual racing bike or at least one where you're bent over in an aerodynamic position, as opposed to straight up and down, as this develops more leg strength and will work your upper body slightly as well.

    We all know how importnat leg strength and endurance is for MA, and cycling is great for building that as well as cardio.
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    I ride a bike to and from work five days a week (about 10 miles round trip). My feeling is that biking has one serious drawback as a conditioning exercise, which is -- unless you're riding on a track, a trail, really undertraveled road, or up the same hill again and again, it's too dangerous to ride at the kind of pace that would provide a good workout.

    I deliberately ride slow much of the time because so many drivers, pedestrians, motorcyclists, bicyclists, etc. do so many crazy fuckin' things and I need time to perceive the hazards and deal with them. (I have a near miss an average of once a month). As it is, I get a nice, moderate workout (somewhere between 40-60 minutes per day, depending on how I catch the traffic lights), but a decent 20-minute jog would be a much better workout, IMHO.
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    IMO.I have to say that swimmimg is the best low-impact exercise that you could do that works the whole body.Arms, legs and middle frame .Which is something that Cycling does not do.You will see Olympic swimmers who look in better shape because they do mostly swimming.
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