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  1. shoushu energy is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by trfcrugby
    Actually, I think a lot was discussed, and it was left open for comment. Other than the no grappling comments, if that can be considered a defense of the art, that is all the shou shu people have had to answer. So there is NO grappling or ground fighting in the art, am I correct? If Shou Shu is so perfect, why does Cook study under Royce Gracie? Why have all his fights ended by submission? Those are valid questions. I remember being told that as a BB I would be damn near invincible. So why isn't Cook ending these fights with something like the Mantis to Mongoose technique (if I remember the name right)?

    As for my name...wtf? Why does my name matter? I really don't have the desire to be hounded by Shou Shu fanboys on the weekends. I am fairly certain I can answer enough questions about the art to verify my story without revealing my name on a public internet forum so that anyone with a hate for MMA and a love of ancient BS can come harass me.
    1st of all, Tosh cross trains because of the rules and guidelines set in cage matches are geared towards grapplers..
    so its in his best interest...
    the way we are trained against someone coming in for a take down, tackle.. whatever you want to call it.. isn't allowed in the "rules"..... no elbows or punches to the back of the neck or elbows to the spine..
    try that crap on the streets and see what happens!

    as far as your name.. why not? you want to talk the talk you cowardly son of a bitch keyboard warrior but you don't want to lay it all on the line...
    what are you worried about.. our art is bullshit right? So why not...
  2. shoushu energy is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by trfcrugby
    Actually, I think a lot was discussed, and it was left open for comment. Other than the no grappling comments, if that can be considered a defense of the art, that is all the shou shu people have had to answer. So there is NO grappling or ground fighting in the art, am I correct? If Shou Shu is so perfect, why does Cook study under Royce Gracie? Why have all his fights ended by submission? Those are valid questions. I remember being told that as a BB I would be damn near invincible. So why isn't Cook ending these fights with something like the Mantis to Mongoose technique (if I remember the name right)?

    As for my name...wtf? Why does my name matter? I really don't have the desire to be hounded by Shou Shu fanboys on the weekends. I am fairly certain I can answer enough questions about the art to verify my story without revealing my name on a public internet forum so that anyone with a hate for MMA and a love of ancient BS can come harass me.
    and for the record.. i wasn't questioning the validity of you taking classes for 2yrs or whatever time you wrote..
    just the odasity(sp) of how you can get on the net and speak so openly disrespectful about a strong martial art....
    to me thats a sign of a coward and i'm glad you left the Moore's system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoushu energy
    the way we are trained against someone coming in for a take down, tackle.. whatever you want to call it.. isn't allowed in the "rules"..... no elbows or punches to the back of the neck or elbows to the spine..
    try that crap on the streets and see what happens!
    Everyone knows the only way to stop a takedown is with a flying knee.
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  4. Fantasy Warrior is offline
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    Fantastic attitude
    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
    Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


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  5. Jekyll is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll
    So how many people can a 4th dan kill in one go?
    Come on, I hear there is this tailor who killed seven giants with one blow. Would he have done better as a 4th dan in Shou Shu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickx
    It must suck for legit practitioners of tai chi like Cullion to see their art get all watered down into exercise for seniors.
    Those who esteme qi have no strength. ~ Exposition of Insights into the Thirteen Postures Attrib: Wu Yuxiang founder of Wu style tai chi.
  6. inde is offline
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    Looks like you've been banned Kick.
  7. Fantasy Warrior is offline
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    Lol. They deleted my thread where I asked straightforward questions about the grappling content and whether they had yearly contracts. And the admin posted this gem (see attached). The other attachment is a screen grab from the deleted thread showing their insular attitude.
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    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
    Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


    Aikidokkkkakkakakakaaaaa
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  8. Fantasy Warrior is offline
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    Yep, banned for asking questions. And they wouldn't answer whether they have yearly contracts nor whether they teach grappling.
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    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
    Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


    Aikidokkkkakkakakakaaaaa
    Best MA website ever!!!!!: http://www.dogjudo.co.uk/
  9. King Sleepless is offline
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    Time to Change you sig, Kick!
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoushu energy
    1st of all, Tosh cross trains because of the rules and guidelines set in cage matches are geared towards grapplers..
    so its in his best interest...
    the way we are trained against someone coming in for a take down, tackle.. whatever you want to call it.. isn't allowed in the "rules"..... no elbows or punches to the back of the neck or elbows to the spine..
    try that crap on the streets and see what happens!

    as far as your name.. why not? you want to talk the talk you cowardly son of a bitch keyboard warrior but you don't want to lay it all on the line...
    what are you worried about.. our art is bullshit right? So why not...
    Thank you, you have just proven that you are FULL OF ****. Classic responses by people who are full of **** are:

    "We are TOO DEADLY for the ring"

    "Elbow to back of the neck/spine will stop a takedown! It's all you need!"

    Before you say it, here are some more:

    "Grappling doesn't work vs multiple opponents!"

    "Grappling doesn't work on the street, there is broken glass and lava!"

    "MMA is just a sport."

    "I would bite and gouge eyes to get out of grappling!"

    ETC.

    Oh, and by the way, UFC pays people more to keep the fight standing, so I don't see how that's helping grapplers.

    PL
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