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    BJJ is complete. You never actually hold the guy, you just punch him so fast it looks like your arm is always touching him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planktime
    Would you say that some types of techniques are more valid that others, or would you say that it is all situational. For example would you follow the idea that someone in Indonesia would need to study different groups of techniques then someone in the USA?
    You're really going beyond my league here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planktime
    Mega, that is possibly one of the best answers I have heard to that question. Would you say that some types of techniques are more valid that others, or would you say that it is all situational. For example would you follow the idea that someone in Indonesia would need to study different groups of techniques then someone in the USA?

    BTW Yrkoon I agree with you there is no complete system out there you MUST cross train to keep from being vulnerable to attacks from all angles.
    Yes, in Indonesia you need to angle your punch slightly, to compensate for the sun being at a different angle.

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    That avatar... I'm lost for words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planktime
    Would you say that some types of techniques are more valid that others, or would you say that it is all situational.

    some techniques are more valid than others. example: a knee to the face is more effective than a flying 540 crescent kick.

    also, hapkido has weapon, striking, ground work, throws, and conditioning. it is "complete." however, i think your average hkd guy will be beat by a thai boxer in a striking match or submitted by a bjj guy in a ground fight. that is because they spend all of their time training in those areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Mick_
    some techniques are more valid than others. example: a knee to the face is more effective than a flying 540 crescent kick.
    That's not his point. He's asking whether a jab in Greenland would be just as effective as a jab in the US or UK.

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    Jabs are at least three times as effective in greenland than they are in the US and UK.

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    Obviously, knife disarms are more urgent in cultures where lots of people pack knives. Takedown defense is more important in countries where every boy learns wrestling in school. Grappling with the gi is more useful in colder climates than in countries where people run around in shorts and t-shirts. Anti-animal techniques are more useful if lots of people own dogs, in particular aggressive breeds.

    So, yes, what you need to focus on depends on the culture you're surrounded by. Duh.

    As for complete systems, it's hard enough to find a teacher who has absorbed one aspect thoroughly so that he can show you every nuance; finding one who is an expert on everything is next to impossible. Hence, specialization and crosstraining are a necessity, and attempts at complete systems often result in watered-down, wishy-washy bullshido.

    On a side note, people abuse the term "watered-down". It means "good stuff diluted with useless, cheap stuff". Hence, for example, judo is not "watered-down jiu-jitsu". Depending on your perspective, it is "distilled jiu-jitsu" (the fluff was taken out) or "castrated jiu-jitsu" (the crucial elements were taken out).
    There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)

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    I like the term "castrated jiu-jitsu"... props for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poop-Loops
    That's not his point. He's asking whether a jab in Greenland would be just as effective as a jab in the US or UK.

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    No the point is what is your definition of what is a complete martial art. besides a job is always more effective in Greenland because the ground is icy and throwing a haymaker will cause you to fall.

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