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    taekwondo sensei?

    I was searching the website of a school that I was thinking about joining when I found this guy who is his student or member of his club or somthing. http://usselfdefense.org I don't know much about the martial arts but isn't taekwondo korean? and isn't sensei and dojo japanese terms? Is this what you guys are talking about when you say "mcdojo"? cool uniforms though!

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    Genereally speaking, here in OK, proper usage of the language is not required for a school to be good. Often times, overzealous instructors will count things off in Japanese in a school/style that is supposed to be Korean- now if there were any Koreans there this would be problematic and probably a little insulting...... but well, there don't seem to be many Koreans involved in Oklahoma's Korean martial arts.....

    I love their requirements for black belt.

    Black Belt Resume

    All Black Belt canidates must prepare a written resume no matter what degree of Black Belt they are attempting to attain. The canidate must submit four (4) copies of their written resume and one (1) disk containing the information contained in their resume.

    Written Resume Must Include;

    1 Letter Requesting Permission To Test

    1.1 Summary of Accomplishments

    1.2 Statement of Readiness

    1.3 Brief Explanation of What This Promotion Means

    1.4 Brief Explanation of What Your Intentions Are

    2 Personal Information

    2.1 Name (Full Legal Name)

    2.2 Date of Birth

    2.3 Place of Birth (City & State)

    2.4 Residence (City & State)

    2.5 Church (Name)

    2.6 Family (Names & Relationships)

    3 Education History

    3.1 Name of Schools Attended

    3.2 Location of Schools (City & State)

    3.3 Related Awards or Accomplishments

    3.4 Graduation Date

    4 Employment / Volunteer History

    4.1 Name of Employer

    4.2 Dates of Employment (Month & Year / Started & Stopped)

    4.3 Location of Employment (City & State)

    4.3 Positions Held / Awards or Accomplishments

    5 Martial Arts Training Background

    5.1 Detailed History in Paragraph Form

    6 Martial Arts Achievements

    6.1 Rank Advancements (Date Earned / Rank Earned / Senior Evaluator)

    6.2 Instructor Certifications

    6.3 Misc. Seminars / Certifications

    7 Martial Arts Competition Background

    7.1 Detailed History in Paragraph Form

    7.2 Tournament Name

    7.3 Tournament Date

    7.4 Competition Results (Awards)

    8 Future Goals / Objectives

    8.1 Explanation in Paragraph Form

    9 Musical Choreographed Form / Pattern

    9.1 Minimum of 30 Movements

    9.2 Between 2 and 3 Minutes in Length

    9.3 Weapons Optional

    9.4 Music Must Be Pre-approved

    9.5 Written Step by Step Description of Each Move Must Be Submitted

    10 Letters of Recommendation (3)

    10.1 Attach At Least Three (3) Letters of Recommendation / Endorsement

    Letters from family members may be included, however they will not count as one of the required letters.
    I recognize some of the names of those instructors, but I've never seen those uniforms at belt tests or competitions and I've never heard of the school or its head instructor.

    As far as TKD/karate goes, they're probably par for the course and just fine, and yes it's obviously a business. Go give it a try, but don't expect training there to prepare you for any Dale Apollo Cook's pro events.

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    All I can say about that "resume" requirement:

    BLOW ME
    Monkey Ninjas! Attack!

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    Indeed.

    The requirement of a musical form is my favorite. Apparently dancing really is a requirement for TKD BB in some places.

    Again I thank god that the head instructor for OSU TKD has a standing "anyone who does a musical kata is outcast" policy ^_^
    Last edited by Stick; 8/28/2005 3:46pm at .

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    lol yet again more Judo !
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    I noticed a bunch of weird things .... no Korean flag on the wall ... was the first thing I noticed on the main page .

    for your black belt you need and need to know some weird **** man ....

    Forms
    Testing Fee: $500

    Chung-Ji, Tan-Gun, To-San, Won-Hyo, Yul-Kok, Chung-Gun, Wha-Rang, Choong-Mu, and Choreographed Musical Kata

    3) Ground Fight (Adults Only)

    One 3 Minute Fight (No Strikes)

    Sparring Techniques

    14 Rounds of Sparring - 2 Minutes Each with 30 Seconds of Rest Each

    6 Point Sparring Matches, 6 Continuous Sparring Matches, and 2 Multiple Opponent Matches

    anyways I have to get out of here ... I cant say anything really concrete except that these peeps are weird .... maybe no weirder than any other TKD school but they're weird ...

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    Wow, $500?

    Yeah, **** that, don't waste your time- I take it back, that place is not par for the course.

    There are a great deal of schools here in OK in a group known as The Wild Bunch, there black belt testing fee is $20 IIRC- and most of that is to pay for the beer and pizza afterwards.

    Good folks, find a wild bunch school if you want TKD/karate.

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    Sounds to me that he got his blackbelt in ITF style TKD And didn't bother to continue. Yeah sensei isn't that hard to see in this scenerio. They're using the ITF forms but they're going more modern style.

    Waste of time? Depends upon what you're looking for. This thing is designed more for the stylized seeker as opposed to the hardcore fight type. Take it as you will I think it looks kinda fun but I only cursored over it.


    (**** all you guys if you think I'm getting soft)

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    According to his own bio he went from a 1st to a 4th degree black belt in 3yrs- is that possible?
    Why is it that I can't find any info on "pokdok suri taekwondo"?

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    lol yet again more Judo !
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    Dai-Tenshi ... you avatar is as weird as that school .. but I find your avatar more amusing ...

    I fear their Martial Arts Pledge tells me they will never come here to explain themselves .........
    Martial Arts Pledge

    I will
    develop myself in a
    positive manner and avoid
    anything that would
    reduce my mental growth

    or my physical health.

    I will
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    order to bring out the best
    in myself and others.

    I will
    use what I learn in class
    constructively and
    defensively
    to help myself
    and my fellow man
    and never to be abusive
    or offensive.

    Last edited by BackFistMonkey; 8/28/2005 4:13pm at .

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    $500 dude, there are a ton of good TKD schools around here that will let him do musical forms if he wants to- though some of them will giggle about it- and his belt test will be 1/25 that price.

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