Wing Chun Wins Again

**Ktulu** · Posted On: 8/25/2005 1:26pm

Out of their depth but tell that to opponents
NORTH-WEST martial arts students who competed at the national Brazilian jujitsu championships last weekend were out of their depth, according to their head coach Stuart Clayton.

However, the 14-member kung-fu-trained team was among the most successful in the competition, with two first placings, three seconds and a third.

As head coach of the Tasmanian Wing Chun Academy, Clayton said he was amazed at the achievements of his team, considering the lack of experience of the five adult and nine children competing.

"There just isn't a competitive kung-fu outlet as it's a form of self-defence, so we've decided to give jujitsu a go," Clayton said.

"Jujitsu is limited in rules, so we had to play them at their own game.

"There's no punching or kicking, it's basically submission wrestling and the only way you can win is through choke or arm lock."

Tracey Clayton won the women's lightweight title and came second in the women's open weight category, while Kristen Smith, of Burnie, finished the open weight in third place.

Tracey is a national karate champion who competed at an international level before switching to kung-fu and jujitsu.

It was the 27-year-old's first competition in more than seven years.

The national titles won by the club last weekend add to the five titles achieved two months ago at the State jujitsu championships.

"Training the students in jujitsu adds to the quality of the school," Clayton said.

"The standard of competition is raised, increasing the level of excellence, which is what martial arts is all about."

The titles won by the Tasmanian Wing Chun Academy outdid the efforts from the club's Launceston and Hobart counterparts which specialise in jujitsu.

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news.cgi?type=2&id=202895

...but they still cant get away from the rules vs. no rules thing. :evil6:

**Ted Deadly** · Posted On: 8/25/2005 1:34pm

Isn't 'the Advocate' that gay magazine? Seems appropriate.

**ojgsxr6** · Posted On: 8/25/2005 2:36pm

So are they actively training in BJJ/Sub grappling or are they saying WT/WC/VT has it all?

**Negativecr33p** · Posted On: 8/25/2005 4:05pm

They used centerline theory.

**Yrkoon9** · Posted On: 8/25/2005 5:28pm

I couldnt click that link. It timed out.

The only thing I can say about that is.....

THE Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Nationals are next month on Sept 25th.

http://www.ajjc.org/

So like...was this one of those, Atlantic NorthEast BJJ Invitational Nationals that have 50 people competing? Because...."The Nationals" as the BJJ perceives it comes next month. Dunno what these WC peeps were doing. Props to them for entering though.

**The_Mirth** · Posted On: 8/25/2005 6:42pm

Originally Posted by Yrkoon9

I couldnt click that link. It timed out.

The only thing I can say about that is.....

THE Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Nationals are next month on Sept 25th.

http://www.ajjc.org/

So like...was this one of those, Atlantic NorthEast BJJ Invitational Nationals that have 50 people competing? Because...."The Nationals" as the BJJ perceives it comes next month. Dunno what these WC peeps were doing. Props to them for entering though.

The australian nationals perhaps?

Originally Posted by http://www.bjj.com.au/clubs.html

Ulverstone:
The Tasmanian Wing Chun Academy
47 Queen St
Ulverstone 7315
contact: Stuart Clayton
Ph. 03 6425 9325
0408 642560
Web : www.combatcentres.com.au
e-mail: scwingchun@hotmail.com

**Animosimony** · Posted On: 8/25/2005 8:52pm

Originally Posted by ojgsxr6

So are they actively training in BJJ/Sub grappling or are they saying WT/WC/VT has it all?

HELLO!!!:

"Training the students in jujitsu adds to the quality of the school," Clayton said.

**Bil Gee** · Posted On: 8/26/2005 7:47am

What a load of bullshit.

How does somebody win a grappling competition, with no strikes or kicks allowed, using Wing Chun? Wing Chun isn't a grappling system. What do they do, stand there and look so mean their opponent throws in the towel?

If they are cross training in a grappling system, then that system takes the credit, it has nothing to do with the Wing Chun.

**NSLightsOut** · Posted On: 8/26/2005 7:58am

The only "national" competition available around that time would be the Machado Nationals, a closed competition only available to members of John Will's Machado organisation.

I found them here: www.bjj.com.au/clubs.html

I don't think they were using their killer trapping to win a BJJ comp.

The only AFBJJ (CBJJs Aussie affiliate) open national comp is the Australian Champions Cup in Brisbane on the 25th of September.

The AUGJJA (Maybe affiliated with Andre Pederneiras' CBJJO, I'm honestly not sure) have their own national competition, during which time I'm unsure.

**The_Mirth** · Posted On: 8/26/2005 9:15am

Originally Posted by Bil Gee

What a load of bullshit.

How does somebody win a grappling competition, with no strikes or kicks allowed, using Wing Chun? Wing Chun isn't a grappling system. What do they do, stand there and look so mean their opponent throws in the towel?

If they are cross training in a grappling system, then that system takes the credit, it has nothing to do with the Wing Chun.

Ok, from the article: "Training the students in jujitsu adds to the quality of the school," Clayton said.

And the goddamn school's name is tasmanian wing chun academy, nowhere does it say they used _ing _un grappling.