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  1. bunyip is offline
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    hall of fame
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    Sorry for any misunderstanding! I'm not calling all Yi Chuan BS, just this particular instructor. Thread title has been edited to reflect that (though I'm sorry, I don't think I can change the title that appears in the thread listing - mods, please feel free to do so). But we're not talking about fajing here. Before you defend his "explosive chi", watch the videos.

    http://www.yichuankungfu.com/video.htm (I recommend clips #6 and #4)

    Those videos are fake, fake, fake. And they're exactly what I watched for half an hour in class.

    Furthermore, if he's using his chi to affect people without touching them, then that's Grade A Bullshido worthy of James Randi's Paranormal Challenge. We're not talking about a sloppy armbar here, we're talking about defying the laws of physics.
    Last edited by bunyip; 8/17/2005 7:28pm at .
    "I'm offering straight punch, kick while downed to the ribs or head, and of course- the german suplex...which is one suplex quickly followed by another." - Guerilla Fists

    Matt Thornton explains "aliveness": http://www.bullshido.com/videos/sbg2.wmv

    West Wind Karate / West Wind Bok Fu / West Wind Kung Fu thread
    West Wind Karate / West Wind Bok Fu / West Wind Kung Fu archive thread
    (experiment to see if I can boost the thread's Google rank)

  2. Upyu is offline

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    Posted On:
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     Style: Aunkai, Tokyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunyip
    Sorry for any misunderstanding! I'm not calling all Yi Chuan BS, just this particular instructor. Thread title has been edited to reflect that. But we're not talking about fajing here. Before you defend his "explosive chi", watch the videos.

    Those videos are fake, fake, fake. And they're exactly what I watched for half an hour in class.

    Furthermore, if he's using his chi to affect people without touching them, then that's Grade A Bullshido worthy of James Randi's Paranormal Challenge. We're not talking about a sloppy armbar here, we're talking about defying the laws of physics.
    Heh, no worries :)
    Btw, I don't disagree that the guy is bullshit. And that no touch **** makes me want to poke my eyes out w/ a sharp stick thinkin he's even associated in "name" w/ the stuff I do. :-p

    Looks like we're on the same page. Sorry if I came off a little strong there :happy8:
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    8/17/2005 7:39pm


     Style: TKD; BJJ

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    Yes, those videos were no fajing, they were bs. No argument there.
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    Posted On:
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    supporting member
     Style: FMA, CMA, & more

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    I do still post here, but I don't do Yiquan. I study Yiliquan, a complete different art...

    The thing I hate the most is the proliferation of piss poor CMA schools. So many "teachers," and so little to learn. You'd think 5000 years worth of history would have a little more to offer, y'know?
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    8/17/2005 11:47pm


     Style: Muso Shinden Ryu

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    Great post, and I think your challenge is fair and equitable. Get in touch with the JREF guys and let them see if they can help you with making this challenge; I'm sure there are some JREF forumites in the area who'll be willing to tag along if you make it in public.
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     Style: Sub Wrestling/Karate

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    I was learning Yi quan with Taiji for 4 years. What I was being taught was stance work with application for my taiji. From what I remember of my sifu saying it was derived from xing yi and the inventor beat many adversaries. I remember reading that one of his students beat a student of Oyama, and the student of Oyama began to learn it and teach it as Taikiken.
  7. Lane is offline
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     Style: Muso Shinden Ryu

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    Taikiken? Body energy fist?

    (The correct Nihongoization of tai chi chuan woud be daikiken, if I'm not mistaken.)
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     Style: Aunkai, Tokyo

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    太氣拳

    Look up sawai kenichi
    if ur interested in nihongobastardization of a chinese art :icon_prof
  9. Zendetta is offline

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    Mr X Rocks!!!
    "You know what I like about you, William? You like guns AND meditation."
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     Style: Sub Wrestling/Karate

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    Japanese taiji is Taikyokuken.
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