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  1. Nii is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/11/2005 10:20am


     Style: TKD, Kendo, Kenjutsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Yeh just last week I almost knocked out a training partner's tooth (almost as in the tooth is now wobbly). Not sure if he was wearing mouth guard tho, probably not.

    Meanwhile yeh I've found a person in my TKD class that actually wants to go harder contact! Great fun once you start to do it.
  2. alittlebird is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/11/2005 1:14pm


     Style: Judo, a tiny bit of bjj

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    One point that is really not on topic - but it was brought up and irks me. Using Tank Abbot as an example of how just 'anyone' can be a good fighter is a fallacy. Tank Abbot is not some bum who liked to brawl on the streets and thats it. He is a guy who was an excellent wrestler and had a decent competitive career ahead of him in that sport until it was sidelined by an injury. He also did quite a bit of boxing and lifting to build up incredible punching power. There is a video of Tank putting up 600lbs on the benchpress backstage at an event somewhere. Furthermore Tank has a pretty unusual personality - a love of fighting that is so ingrained that he doesnt mind taking a serious beatdown, and laughs off being jumped and badly beaten as 'just some guys looking for fun'. Point being Tank is in no way an average guy or unskilled bar fighter. Even the world class strikers that fought him knew better than to just wade in and brawl it out with him, they had to pick at him until he was tired and then go for the kill.
  3. EternalRage is offline
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    Posted On:
    8/11/2005 1:40pm

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     Style: Bajillion Joo Jizzu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by alittlebird
    One point that is really not on topic - but it was brought up and irks me. Using Tank Abbot as an example of how just 'anyone' can be a good fighter is a fallacy. Tank Abbot is not some bum who liked to brawl on the streets and thats it. He is a guy who was an excellent wrestler and had a decent competitive career ahead of him in that sport until it was sidelined by an injury. He also did quite a bit of boxing and lifting to build up incredible punching power. There is a video of Tank putting up 600lbs on the benchpress backstage at an event somewhere. Furthermore Tank has a pretty unusual personality - a love of fighting that is so ingrained that he doesnt mind taking a serious beatdown, and laughs off being jumped and badly beaten as 'just some guys looking for fun'. Point being Tank is in no way an average guy or unskilled bar fighter. Even the world class strikers that fought him knew better than to just wade in and brawl it out with him, they had to pick at him until he was tired and then go for the kill.
    That's much less than say Vitor. And even if he did do boxing and wrestling, from what we see on footage it mostly looks like crazy-street-brawler-fu-jitsu.
  4. Strong Machine is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/11/2005 1:54pm

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     Style: Pro-Wrestling

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Tank is a powerlifter with years of combat training pretending to be a common brawler so as to appeal to the common man.
    He clearly has wrestled a long time, just watch the way he uses his hips in defending takedowns.Notice how he immediatly goes into correct defensive countermeasures when Frank Mir locks on an oma plata.And notice Tank offering his leg up for a thai style kick in an attempt to counter with his straight right.
    He doesnt move like a smaller fighter so you may mistake him as untrained.But he is very clearly fighting a highly trained big mans fight.
    Tank wrestled in highschool and did superb.He still has the same wrestling coach and never stopped training for too long a time.
    It is fair to say he has wrestled and boxed for decades.
  5. alittlebird is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/11/2005 2:28pm


     Style: Judo, a tiny bit of bjj

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Sure its less than Vitor. But it is still years of very good 'alive' training, coupled with immense strength and a very uncommon mindset. So he is not even close to a common street brawler. Just because it doesnt look pretty doesnt mean theres not a lot of technique there. Guys like David Tua and Mark Hunt don't have pretty looking standup games either, and some of my friends have said that Hunt fights like a bar brawler. Doesnt mean the technique is not there.
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