Russian Style Punches?

**Fantasy Warrior** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 5:49am

Please please please can someone do a technical article with photos describing this. It sounds interesting.

**RobP** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 5:56am

If you do a search around the Systema / RMA sites you should find info. You might find it called casting, or wave movement or whipping strikes. You can see it on various DVDs / videos too, I think it's covered on Vasiliev's old Hand to Hand tapes for example

cheers
Rob

**chaosexmachina** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 7:05am

Hey thanks guys, I've been wondering about this for ages.

RobP, that video didn't work for me! What up wit dat? Did it work for anyone else?

Originally Posted by Repulsive Monkey

There are plusses and minuses there, but this style of punching seems to lend itself particularly well to striking from mount or in someone's guard.

Yes, I've seen Fedor use it VERY effectively in guard. Almost to the point where I want to go to Russia to learn it.

**RobP** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 7:31am

You might need to download some codecs. I used these and find I can play most downloads now:

http://www.k-litecodecpack.com/

You don't have to go to Russia, I'm sure there are people in Canada who can teach you

cheers
Rob

**DCS** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 10:50am

We call it russian hook; is a mix between a swing and a hook. A hook with more than the standard 90º.

I've read it comes from Soviet Union school of boxing.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 3:23pm

Russian hook? Now that explains a lot. I was always told to throw it as a follow up to a jab. My jab was turned into a lazy flick, like an inverted backfist.

**Yrkoon9** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 3:38pm

After years of research I came up with the science behind this method of punching. Since we know that all Russians are drunks from all that Vodka thier punches got a little 'looser' from the typically tight Western style boxing punches.

Similar to the 'Drunken' styles of Kung Fu, the Russian style of punching is simply boxings expression of the vodka punch.

Happy to help!

**FighterJones** · Posted On: 8/03/2005 3:41pm

I read they were call casting/looping hooks, thats all.
casting hooks makes sense.
W3rd to kick catcher though. I Really would like to see an artcile specificaly on this

**Dr._Tzun_Tzu** · Posted On: 8/04/2005 12:14am

Looks like an old fashion "cloths line" strike, but with a little hook thrown in. Tai Chi I remeber having some similear wave/whip like strikes, over the top and out.....

That vid is great, crazy Russians!!! :XXreindee

**bad credit** · Posted On: 8/04/2005 1:38am

So Drunken Kung Fu, Drunken Monkey Kung Fu, Drunken Boxing, Systema, and Sanbo all have the same punch? I doubt it. Similar, maybe. So when will we see the Soccer Hooligan style brought to the US by whiskeyed up Irish and Scots full of Haggis? Or the deadly fighting skills of Afghan Warlords trippin' balls on Khat and Heroin and Opium? I still think American Inner City PCP Boxing is pretty badass.