Thread: Finish the Kimura
8/02/2005 8:25am, #11
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So lets say you are going for the kimura- you have the grip, your guard is closed still, and they are being strong while still keeping good base.
One thing I saw on a Matt Thornton tape was to shrimp out so that you are almost perpendicular to them. Then open your guard and close it again so that your leg on the side that is being kimuraed is against their hand (which is gripping their belt) and tight on their body. Now you can use the strength of your leg, back, and arms against their arm. At 160 and 6'0'' I would guess you have relatively long legs, further increasing the power.
The other thing is the good old hip bump-kimura-guillotine combo. If there is more setup to the move, they will not be as able to use base and defend- you'll be thinking aheadof them, instead of (presumebly) a little behind them.
Last edited by MadeOfOlives; 8/02/2005 8:28am at .
8/02/2005 9:37am, #12
Let's say you have the kimura grip on the guy's left arm and are still on your right side. Switch your hip such that you are more or less perpendicular to him (with your upper body on his left side, obviously). Now use your right leg to push off from his hip. *Use a series of hard jerks, not a smooth pull*. That should help break his grip. You will need to temporarily open your guard for that, but it's worth it.There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
8/02/2005 10:06am, #13
8/02/2005 10:11am, #14KhorneliusPraxxGuest
What is Shoulder Blade?
**awaits Alex's response**
8/02/2005 10:29am, #15
Beats the hell out of me. But w can call it the Oops There Goes Your Shoulder lock if you want.
8/02/2005 10:44am, #16
Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats
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How about attaining a superior position (not bottom guard) before trying the Kimura in the first place?
It's a hell of a lot easier to get from side control.
8/02/2005 10:53am, #17
Actually, I find the Kimura MUCH easier from guard than from anywhere else. Sometimes I lock it in from mount and the let the guy roll me into my guard, cranking the Kimura during the transition.There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
8/02/2005 11:29am, #18Originally Posted by Beatdown Richie
8/02/2005 11:41am, #19I do that too sometimes, but I always feel like I'm doing something wrong because I'm giving up position.
In terms of tournament strategy, as long as your guard is good, I don't see anything wrong with it. Collect points for mount, go for submission, if you get it - great, if not - chill, or try to collect points for the sweep back to mount :-)There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
8/02/2005 12:22pm, #20Originally Posted by Beatdown Richie
regardless I still haven't figured out what position he's trying to get the kimura from, because if it's on the top, he's probably not monkey-gripping or "sweeping the mat" with the guys wrist
if it's from the guard, he's not getting perpendicular and using his whole body instead of his arms
if it's from north/south, he needs to get him up on his side and then to yank forward to break the grip of the belt and then crank back"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." -A. Lincoln
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