Hip twist

**chi-conspiricy** · Posted On: 7/31/2005 4:54pm

I was curious how many degrees everyone twists their hips when they commit to a
1. Jab
2. Hook
3. Cross

As in, if you could measure the angle change from point of origin to point of fist on target. (unless you do _ing _un, and you do it all arm like a badass)

**roly** · Posted On: 8/01/2005 8:14am

i just go where i feel comfortable, no specific amount of rotation

**Zeddy** · Posted On: 8/01/2005 10:42am

Jab - very little usually, unless I'm really trying to reach out. I try not to do that and rely more on footwork.

Cross - not past facing opponent straight on.

Hook - 90 degrees to opponent.

General guide only. Obviously the hook is pretty fully committed at that angle, but you did say committed.

**Bizzaro Root** · Posted On: 8/01/2005 11:07am

32.5 degress

**lawdog** · Posted On: 8/01/2005 11:37am

Originally Posted by Bizzaro Root

32.5 degress

I was always taught 32.7 degrees. ****, I've been doing it wrong all these years!

**chi-conspiricy** · Posted On: 8/01/2005 6:48pm

Well, I meant rough estimates. I've heard some say a good 30 degrees makes a better jab, while others barely seem to twitch their waist.

**Grant** · Posted On: 8/01/2005 6:52pm

Keep in mind that people use jabs for different purposes. There are pawing jabs and stiff jabs. The same could be said for hooks, it all depends on whether you are trying to open the guy up or take his head off.

**MP3KSC** · Posted On: 8/05/2005 2:28am

For my super jab its 13.37 degrees.

**Ryno** · Posted On: 8/05/2005 11:38am

Yeah, you have to differentiate between stiff power jabs, and slapping cover jabs. There is a HUGE difference between the two.

What I call a cover jab is just a distration, or set-up for another technique. It is just a notch up from a feint, in that you actually try to make some contact with your opponent. Generally, you're trying to cover their eyes, disrupt what they are doing, and screw up their reaction to your follow up. These punches are basically arm punches with very little hip twist. Some fighters will step into the punch slightly to get a little bit of additional power, but it definitely isn't a big power technique. Since there is little hip commitment, the cover jab can be thrown quickly, and can be difficult to see coming. They are quick and whippy, but will not knock someone out.

A power jab is thrown with a lot more commitment and hip twist. It can essentially be considered a lead cross. For an orthodox stance power jab, you would twist your hips quickly to the right, step in hard, and lean into the punch a bit. It takes very quick and forceful hip twist to do this effectively. JKD employs a similar technique in their lead hand straight blast. Some boxers will do it with an orthodox stance.

They both have their place, but if I can hit someone, I'd prefer to hit them hard with some hip twist and a good power jab. I'll tend to use cover jabs more to set up leg kicks, or as a defensive disruptor.