Muay Thai...shin is KILLING me.

**jubei33** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 6:12am

woodlock oil works pretty nice on bruises. Its really just a stronger, longer lasting tiger balm though. It persecutes other passengers on a train too.
http://www.veryasia.com/woodlocmedoi.html

**Shaneus_Snake** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 11:49am

Another great product is Trameel. It is in a blue and white box at most local drugstores. My personal favorite is Fighter's Friend, another one of those obscure Thai products that works well.

**Seraphim** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 12:09pm

Originally Posted by Lefty

IMO I dont agree with hard conditioning principles. A lot of them might be traditional but they were tailored to the student to let them ease into it. Also I've heard people complain about prolonged pain from things like MT shin conditioning and karateka punching a makiwara.

Personally I think you'd be better off with a softer approach ie. just kicking the heavy bag a lot and then rubbing the area down well with a liniment every second day. In a while you'd be as conditioned as the others with no risk of long term pain.

I dont see how kicking a heavy bag will condition your shins. IT never conditioned mine. I get no sensation out of my 100lb heavy bag. The other persons femur and shin certainly dont feel like a heavy bag.

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 12:20pm

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I dont see how kicking a heavy bag will condition your shins. IT never conditioned mine. I get no sensation out of my 100lb heavy bag. The other persons femur and shin certainly dont feel like a heavy bag.

Kick a harder bag. You condition your shins to get used to the feeling of impact on a solid object. Shin to shin contact is pretty much always going to hurt, but kicking a hard bag will strengthen your legs to a points where it's not as bad.

**Draven** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 1:19pm

You still have soft virgin shins, toughen it up and condition them like Kidspatula describes above. When I was new to MT sometimes I could hardly push the pedal on the car on my way home from practise. It gets easier and easier, trust me.

**Seraphim** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 1:34pm

Originally Posted by Kidspatula

Kick a harder bag. You condition your shins to get used to the feeling of impact on a solid object. Shin to shin contact is pretty much always going to hurt, but kicking a hard bag will strengthen your legs to a points where it's not as bad.

But I'm kicking as hard as I can! **runs away crying**

Right now I'm using a 4 x 4 wrapped in 3 layers of carpet. And I still cry sometimes.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 2:17pm

Originally Posted by Seraphim

But I'm kicking as hard as I can! **runs away crying**

Right now I'm using a 4 x 4 wrapped in 3 layers of carpet. And I still cry sometimes.

If you are serious we need to have a talk. There are so many things wrong with this statement I am losing count.

**Seraphim** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 3:01pm

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

If you are serious we need to have a talk. There are so many things wrong with this statement I am losing count.

I was only joking about the crying part. It's just a 4 x 4 wrapped in carpet down at the bottom. The carpet is fuffy side out btw.

My brother orginally built it a while ago. I took it up after the heavy bag stopped tickling my fancy.

I'm thinking about trying to modify it with springs if possible to add a little give.

Cheers

**shqiptaro** · Posted On: 9/27/2006 5:16pm

ease off the sparring and keep kicking on pads and bags!
if you kick 30 minutes a day on a bag, your shins will become much harder! do it like they do in thailand man!!!!!

albanian pride from oudenaarde belgium

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 9/28/2006 9:59am

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I was only joking about the crying part. It's just a 4 x 4 wrapped in carpet down at the bottom. The carpet is fuffy side out btw.

My brother orginally built it a while ago. I took it up after the heavy bag stopped tickling my fancy.

I'm thinking about trying to modify it with springs if possible to add a little give.

Cheers

Immediately stop kicking the post. It is damaging either your form or your leg. Possibly both. Seriously. If you don't beleive this list in yout head the myriad differences between a post and a person.

Your Heavy bag probably wasn't conditiong your shin because it was a soft boxing style bag. A good long thai bag should be hard and heavy at the bottom. That is where the shin conditioning takes place.