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  1. Gezere is offline
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    My guns bigger than Scrapper's!

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     Style: Kakutogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joz View Post
    I appreciate that this is a very old thread and I am in fact being a massive pedant however...



    Sangaku Jime is not featured n Mifunes Canon, the technique this post references is Sangaku Gatame Ude hishigi (an armlock from the triangle position) p163 of the K. Sugai translation and p154 of the more comonly available Francoise White translation.

    Sangaku Jime is supposedly the creation of Tsunetane Oda.

    There.
    He knows that. We weren't being serious about who came up with the triangle choke.
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     Style: Issh"i"nryu fixed....

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    My opinion is a bit bias since I don't like BJJ... That being said the old style vs style debate is always dependant on the goal of the user.
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     Style: Over substance

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    I thought Sambo was what you called it when your Gi pants spent too much time in the dryer…
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    Posted On:
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     Style: SAMBO/BJJ/Judo and others

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    Screw the either or, cross train in everything.
  5. Lu Tze is offline

    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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     Style: Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super8astard View Post
    My opinion is a bit bias since I don't like BJJ...
    Did it kill your dog or something?
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeFan View Post
    Screw the either or, cross train in everything.
    Good idea!

    I've taken the liberty of going ahead and signing you up with Sifu Gary's Wing Chun school



    And with this really cool Dux Ryu Ninjitsu club.

    Apparently their founder is the real life inspiration for bloodsport! How fucking cool is that!

    And you just know this guy has been involved in some level 10 CIA ****, I bet we're breaking the official secrets act even thinking about it!

  7. Super8astard is offline

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    Posted On:
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     Style: Issh"i"nryu fixed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze View Post
    Did it kill your dog or something?
    Yes. Yes it did.
  8. CoffeeFan is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: SAMBO/BJJ/Judo and others

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    @judoka_uk

    Perhaps I should be more specific.

    Screw the either or, cross train in everything.....that will help your ground game such as BJJ, SAMBO, Judo, Wrestling, etc.
  9. blackmonk is online now
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    Posted On:
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     Style: belt and jacket wrestling

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    My $.02, having trained in both...

    The majority of pure sambo players that I know don't have near the mat skills that BJJ guys have, although there are certainly exceptions. BJJ is much more technical on the ground. There are a handful of sambo guys that compete at BJJ tournaments around here, and their ground movements typically aren't as fluid.

    However, I would give the overall advantage to sambo, because it is a more complete system
    (speaking of both arts in isolation), and there's that 2 or 3 seconds after the fight hits the ground that BJJ guys are usually a little lost... it's that short, transitional period between takedown and positioning. But the emphasis in sambo on entering, throwing, and quickly submitting is superior IMO.

    If you supplement either art with the other, then you have an incredible weapon.
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     Style: BJJ, Boxing, Muay Thai

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    who the **** cares what your grappling skill is called as long as you win the fight.
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