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  1. stillkicking is offline

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    7/23/2005 3:42pm


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    Japanese Jiu Jitsu - Tracing lineages

    I'm a Japanese Jiu Jitsu n00b. How can I trace the origin of all the different JJJ schools nowadays? How do I know they are legit?

    Does anyone have links or info on the legitimate origins of JJJ and which schools out there are actually descendants (and not pretenders) of the original styles?

    Thanks.
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     Style: Muso Shinden Ryu

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    http://www.koryu.com

    If you can find a translation, the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten is the be-all end-all of Japanese koryu arts authority.

    Every extant koryu can trace its lineage right back to its founder, and probably show you their additions to the makimono and denshou.
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    Bugei Ryuha Daijiten is a good source to have but you also need to be able to read japanese. And it hard getting a copy of it. I recommend CLASSICAL FIGHTING ARTS OF JAPAN by Serge Mol for a good english source and the furyu.com site.
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    Posted On:
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    Could you dudes do me a favor please?
    find the lineage or a site with the lineage of "ketto ryu jiu jitsu" cause thats what my system came from, i think its like an mma version of it, not sure tho.
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     Style: Muso Shinden Ryu

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    the only information I can find on the Ketto ryu is a website put out by the group. Furthermore, I'm not sure Ketto is even Japanese.
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     Style: Canadian Shidokan

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    Maybe you mean Kotto ??


    Anyways, lineage is irrelevant, step on the mat, THERE is were the proof is.
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     Style: Bagua,Xingyiquan

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    I'm not sure Ketto is even Japanese.
    Ketto is not anything I could find however Kettou has 3 meanings 1.blood 2.blood sugar 3.duel all depending on the Kanji.
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     Style: Korean Capoiera

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    Arahoushi, Asia

    Thanks for the tips. I'll start the process of searching. That said, if you (or anyone) have info on this style:

    Kitsune Ryu Jiu-Jitsu

    I'd apprecaite it.

    Thanks again.
    SK
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     Style: Bagua,Xingyiquan

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    Fox jujutsu is a modern jujutsu I think people who create their own styles need better names.
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     Style: Korean Capoiera

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    Mikkyou,

    Ah. I suspected that it was a modern style.

    That said, do you have any evidence/sites to support your claim?

    Thanks.
    SK.
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