Thread: Shoulder strikes?
7/13/2005 10:02pm, #21Originally Posted by king of sealsSON OF ODIN
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7/13/2005 10:19pm, #22
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My first style (TIen Shan Pai) did use shoulder strikes, usually when hands were tied up, to create space for an explosive attack, or to knock the opponent off balance. My shifu once slipped my right and threw his shoulder into my back and I flew forward and tripped over his leg...which was his point. I was used to not knowing where the hell I got hit from.
7/13/2005 10:56pm, #23
My instructor is hella good at these, I definatelly want to get great at these things.
7/13/2005 11:05pm, #24
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7/13/2005 11:28pm, #25Originally Posted by hedgehogey
The second type is to approach your target sideways (give or take). There are a few ways to do this, but your torso remains fairly still and the power comes from your legs. You can get under a person and jam upwards or you can drop your weight downwards.
I saw a great MMA match where one guy tied his opponent up against the cage wall. He didn't have a substantial positional advantage, but he was able to land a succession of shoulder strikes. On their own, they weren't much, but they started to add up fast. Within a minute, the opponent made a rushed move to disengage and -- by dropping his guard to do so -- got KTFO.
7/14/2005 2:01am, #26
Originally Posted by king of seals
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2)it can knock someone down or set stuff up as i said or do some other stuff. gotta be able to train so you can do it hard without losing balance easily(person can pull or something).
3)because mma guys tend to just study mt/bjj/wrestling. but yes i have seen them in mma(only on the ground so far)
4.don't know how to describe it, other than a body check. They are however really old school ma techniques, which ppl don't think of as ma techs. My personal favorite, lunge punch-body check. gotta be 1 step though and quick.
7/14/2005 12:32pm, #27
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Thank you guys. I would especially thank:
- Asia, for being a MA demigod.
- Kengou, for providing Asia's video.
- Yrkoon9 & Repulsive monkey for actually providing techniques.
Originally Posted by Kengou
7/14/2005 2:50pm, #28
After trying the technique, if I managed to close well enough and get a good enough underhook without having my left side pounded by shovel-hooks, it was a decent technique, but not something I would depend on, by far.
(i also discovered i'm far better at kickboxing than boxing, but that's for the training journal)
7/14/2005 3:10pm, #29
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While learning osoto gari, I was practicing with a guy who was about my height. When I did the throw, I got a little bit low as I stepped in. When I reaped, I stood into him and my shoulder hit him hard in the neck. He did that choke/cough thing.
Maybe you could practice this, but I don't think that it would be very high percentage.
I really like Asia's baji techniques, but it seems like you need to have a pretty good entry technique to really create damage with the shoulder. That probably just requires some good drilling, though.
7/14/2005 5:41pm, #30
In my jujitsu class a couple days ago the shoulder ram entry variation came up on some throw...not osoto gari I think, but the guy teaching me said it was kind of rude and to avoid doing it that way in class.
The Baji thing is different and technically probably not a "shoulder" strike. You kind of slam your whole torso into somoene where the hips and shoulders land together. But it looks like a shoulder strike so .... meh.Fighting evil and upholding justice in blue silk pajamas baby!
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