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  1. Shams is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    BS meter rising...
    Yea right label my words bs just cause you a fucking loser who prefers striking the opponet with a stiff micro-dick.

    Open hand strikes are always faster.....well for me anyways....dont get much power tho.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar Wong
    so how much faster are we talking here? can we radar gun it for those of us who feel that the difference in speed (if there is any) is almost negligible. a proper punch is thrown with a relaxed hand and should only be tightened on or near impact anyway.

    As for open hand strikes, I think pimp-slapping fools would be excellent and really shock your opponent. But then you'd really have a fight on your hands if you don't capitalize on it. Bas Rutten had the killer palm heel strike. The part of the hand he uses (from anecdotal evidence) is on the pinky side on that bone closest to the wrist. I've heard it called the "ox jaw" or some other weird name like that.

    Open hand strikes I used to use the most were the knife hand and the ridge hand. I'm a fan of the closed fist hook and overhand right/left now, though.
    Yes the speed is kinda negligible but its still faster....I prefer punching my opponents with a stiff jab over anything else but like i said the knuckle of me right hand is hurt so I'm experimenting with the open-hand for now and am finding it useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shams
    Yea right label my words bs just cause you a fucking loser who prefers striking the opponet with a stiff micro-dick.

    Open hand strikes are always faster.....well for me anyways....dont get much power tho.............
    You suck at life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Tom
    You suck at life.
    Funny ...hell funny tom......sure you aint the LOSER here just logging on to this site to write that.
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    Its certainly a lot faster than a punch cause the hands are more relaxed open.
    I like that strike because lieutenant Worf uses it.

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    Whose lieutenant Worf ??????????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shams
    Yea right label my words bs just cause you a fucking loser who prefers striking the opponet with a stiff micro-dick.

    Open hand strikes are always faster.....well for me anyways....dont get much power tho.............
    I think it's more likely he labeled your words BS because he's an experienced martial artist and you're a 17 year old kid. Just guessing, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shams
    Yes the speed is kinda negligible but its still faster....I prefer punching my opponents with a stiff jab over anything else but like i said the knuckle of me right hand is hurt so I'm experimenting with the open-hand for now and am finding it useful.
    I still don't think it's faster. And when I say negligible, I do mean that any extra speed that you've convinced yourself that you're getting isn't going to make a difference to your opponent. I think if there's such a drastic difference, then you're punching incorrectly with your closed fist. The fist should be "open" during the actual punch (in other words...relaxed, like an open hand strike). Maybe you didn't catch that part in my last post.

    if anything [BS mode]The closed fist is much faster because an open hand creates too much drag, while the fist is much more streamlined. If you were to used a spear-hand approach and switch to the palm strike at the last second, you're wasting precious nano-seconds to process the command to pull your hand up for striking (not to mention the air-brake-like effect it will have taking away speed that you need for impact). The fist just takes one form and remains that way until impact. fist = faster[/BS mode]

    I think open-hand strikes are excellent (especially for reducing hand damage), but I'm sure the speed between open and closed hand strikes are the same. I mean a solid right cross will obviously get the job done in most cases, but sometimes you just have to bust a lead knife hand to the neck of a pimp in your face. They each have their place.
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    I was going to make a serious post to this thread about how we used the palm heel in my training to be a CO, but now that I see Shams is an idiot, I think I'll pass.
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    From my own experience, with any target above sternum level, unless I am striking in an upwards motion, I get more power out of a closed fist because the impact is straight in, my palm strike tends to angle off a bit, making me glance more than I do with a punch.

    I notice no speed difference, but the speed difference between my back fist and my straight punches and palm strikes is pretty noticable.
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