Thread: Pro Hapkido?
7/10/2005 1:26pm, #1
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- Feb 2003
Looks like MMA to me
7/10/2005 4:33pm, #2
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- Feb 2005
it does look allitle mma. that ground fighting looked really jiujitsu.
7/10/2005 9:30pm, #3
I didn't see anything that looked distinctively "hapkido". But I don't know much about hapkido.
Hapkido masquerading as MMA? Maybe. Let's see the rules!"Prison is for rapists, thieves and murderers. If you lock someone up for smoking a plant that makes them happy, you're the fucking criminal." - Joe Rogan
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7/10/2005 10:37pm, #4
I competed in that this year. Trust me it's no MMA>
7/10/2005 11:05pm, #5Originally Posted by Osiris
note the "look" part ... I am sure the rules were very limiting and not many of them looked liked hardcore trained ring fighters so I doubt it felt like it ...
Omega .. was it atleast fun ?
7/11/2005 12:31pm, #6
I had a blast....needs a bigger mat but it was fun.
7/11/2005 12:40pm, #7
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- Jun 2004
I know a few HapKiDo instructors and after watching the clip they all claimed it was not HapKiDo at all. Not enough wrist locks I guess. I was pretty stunned that almost none of them thought it was a good idea to have competitions like that.Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
7/11/2005 12:51pm, #8
That's because they're closed minded idiots. You can tell them I said it, and I'll have a convention to say to their faces too Tyler.
7/11/2005 1:10pm, #9
why it's not MMA:
Originally Posted by 2005 PRO-HAPKIDO OPEN Short list of rules
7/11/2005 1:42pm, #10
I fought in this tournament. 16 seconds into it, there's a guy laying on the ground recovering from a hard roundhouse kick to the ribs. That would be me. At 28 seconds, there's footage of me being thrown.
Edited to add:
I guess I should give an account of the experience instead of just mentioning I was there. 2004 was the first year they did this “pro hapkido” thing and IMHO it was a bit of a cluster-****. The adult fighting was supposed to start at noon but didn’t actually get rolling till 4. The fighters were divided between male and female, black belts and colored belts and light, middle and heavy weights. I don’t remember exactly, but I think the weight categories were: 145lbs and under, 146-185lb and 185lbs and up. The scoring: in order for a punch or kick to score, you had to “stagger” your opponent with it. There was never a clear definition of what it meant to “stagger.” The consequence was that very few blows landed actually counted for anything. I personally did not see a single punch count. One of the senior instructors in our organization who watched the whole thing later said that he only saw one punch that scored in the entire tournament: it was a clean shot to the center of the chest and the puncher kihap-ed (kiai-ed if you’re Japanese) upon contact. The school that hosted this thing is big into shouting, from what I understand, so I guess yelling at your opponent makes your punches count. You could knee from the clinch, but they only counted the first one, from the first person. I was also told that the judges had a tendency to rule in your favor if you had the hosting school’s logo on the back of your gi.
My personal performance was a bit poor, mostly due to my failure to work on cardio (which I’m still quite guilty of). We figured from the rules that this was going to be more of a grappling tournament than a stand-up tournament so we trained to avoid ground fighting, and tie up and wait for time to run out if it came to a ground fight. So the first guy I fought I tried to stay at range with, but ran out of gas early on. When it got to a ground fight, I discovered that I could out-grapple him, but by that time I was too tired to do so. I eventually got choked and tapped. The second guy I fought was from my organization and he won the black-belt championship at our last inter-school tournament. So he fought like me only much better. I figured my best chance was to close and grapple with him but he just kicked the crap out of me and when I got close threw me then backed off to avoid the ground fight. He ended the fight shin-kicking me in the ribs, knocking the wind out of me and leaving me lying on the mat for the next 5 minutes trying to catch my breath. It wasn’t until I was sitting against the wall recovering and watching the next fight that the idiot light went off in my head: due to my late registration I got put in the black-belt division (there was some assigning people up and down in other schools based on grappling experience so I didn’t think of it immediately, strengthening my asserting of a cluster-****) so I don’t feel TOO bad about getting my ass kicked in both fights.
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