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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin
    Based on my experience, I consider chambering to be a teaching device. It helps the student learn how to generate power with his or her kicks. However, in practice you can chamber or not when you kick depending on the circumstance, once you know what you're doing.

    Well... kicks are one smooth movement, but involve bringing the knee up to keep it a tight quick movement, big wide kicks are very not supposed to happen.

    Anyway, we're probably both talking about the same thing, but it's pretty hard to describe a kick in detail over a message board.

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    In my TKD school we were taught the 4 step or whatever method of kicking with chambering and such, but told when we actually execute it, it is a fluid motion where the chambering is just part of the kick, but not really a step on it's own anymore.

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    For what it's worth Bill Wallace says that he chambers his kicks because then his opponent can't tell whether a round, side, or hook kick is coming. I was always taught that it was to generate snap.

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    Sometimes, you need to chamber at least a little bit so that you can kick effectively, like for a front kick to the body or something, even if you abbreviate it.

    But, sometimes, if you really want speed over power, some kicks work bringing the foot directly to the point of impact, like when you reach for a refrigerator magnet with your hand. An example would be a pendulum kick from JKD/Jun Fan.

    Personally, I probably do chamber style kicks most frequently when I'm kicking to the body in the context of my international rules kickboxing practice, but from time to time I've done pendulum kick style movements when I wanted to be a bit faster.
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    ugh. . . i have a point of view about chambering, but I would almost need to sit down and make a series of poser animations to demontrate it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCache
    ugh. . . i have a point of view about chambering, but I would almost need to sit down and make a series of poser animations to demontrate it...
    Please do...

    Edit: I'd also like to say that 90% of the kicks that I do while sparing or whenever (hasn't been much and hopefully won't be anymore) I'm in a real fight are either low front kicks or sweep kicks. Anything else really is too slow and puts me temporarily in a position I really don't want to be against somebody who is seriously trying to hurt me.
    Last edited by SYB; 7/08/2005 10:29pm at .

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    I can't do poser at work, I don't have it here.

    essentially, proper chambering invovles using the hinge that is the knee to compromise the geometry of the knee in favor of the geometry of the kick as the foot travels. Improper chambering is lifting your foot in the air and then flicking out the lower leg.
    Last edited by JohnnyCache; 7/08/2005 11:23pm at . Reason: changed last "knee" to kick


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    He's trying to say that kicking using only the foreleg sucks, which is usually true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    WHAT?

    Hence the need for illustration :icon_lol:

    And WR, I mean a little more then that. I'll put together something to show you what I mean when I get some time...


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    there was also a typo in my post that made it confusing. I fixed it.


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