Go Kan Ryu, the rape of Karate

**Benjamin** · Posted On: 7/20/2005 11:29pm

at the risk of flogging a dead horse, I also did a little GKR when i first came to Australia and agree with everything Zeddy said.

**Ponsonby** · Posted On: 7/21/2005 12:48am

Yeah McKarate !
A female friend of mine got a knock at the door one evening by some nerd in a karate gi offering "self defence" classes, he said he was an instructor (salesman).
When asked how long he'd been "training" his reply "..err , about a year".
My friends younger sister, a brown belt( 3 yrs solid training) in an "old school" karate style offered to fight him!
Of course he didnt , couldnt!! :binkybaby

**Zeddy** · Posted On: 7/21/2005 6:06am

I think there are some good people at the upper levels, but for the most part the local instructors are a fairly mixed bag. The "instructor's belt" basically hides whatever rank you are.

That said, if GKR is still promoting themselves are a non-contact, self defence oriented school.... bah, I've wasted too much time already.

**DuckofDeath** · Posted On: 7/21/2005 12:50pm

Originally Posted by Ponsonby

A female friend of mine got a knock at the door one evening by some nerd in a karate gi offering "self defence" classes, he said he was an instructor (salesman).

Good sweet Christ.

On another forum, GKR door-to-door selling was mentioned, and I opined that one would have to be a masochistic psychopath to do that for a living.

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 7/21/2005 12:54pm

Originally Posted by Ponsonby

Yeah McKarate !
A female friend of mine got a knock at the door one evening by some nerd in a karate gi offering "self defence" classes, he said he was an instructor (salesman).
When asked how long he'd been "training" his reply "..err , about a year".
My friends younger sister, a brown belt( 3 yrs solid training) in an "old school" karate style offered to fight him!
Of course he didnt , couldnt!! :binkybaby

That rocks.

**NSLightsOut** · Posted On: 7/22/2005 2:15am

Originally Posted by Ponsonby

Yeah McKarate !
A female friend of mine got a knock at the door one evening by some nerd in a karate gi offering "self defence" classes, he said he was an instructor (salesman).
When asked how long he'd been "training" his reply "..err , about a year".
My friends younger sister, a brown belt( 3 yrs solid training) in an "old school" karate style offered to fight him!
Of course he didnt , couldnt!! :binkybaby

I'm praying that someday one of these jokers will turn up on my doorstep. :new_astha

**Zeddy** · Posted On: 7/22/2005 5:34am

Originally Posted by DuckofDeath

Good sweet Christ.

On another forum, GKR door-to-door selling was mentioned, and I opined that one would have to be a masochistic psychopath to do that for a living.

They earn by commission I hear. That might explain the stories about how some of them are somewhat frantic when it comes to getting a foot into the door as it were.

**Zeddy** · Posted On: 7/22/2005 10:44am

I don't know about the novice to black in two years. I think it's longer usually, I figure the extended time makes for more class fees.

Fluffy, I'm just curious which regional manager this was. As I said I was approached at one time to join up, but declined since I was headed for uni. I'm just curious if it happens to be the same guy.

**Fluffy** · Posted On: 7/22/2005 11:13am

Zeddy, I'm based in the UK. I live in what GKR refer to as "region 27". The regional manager was an Australian sent over from Sydney. His name was Daniel Taylor. Maybe there's some info about him somewhere on their web page.

The black belt thing may vary between countries, but I know for a fact that the "fast-track" programme run by Taylor is designed to get people to black belt in 2 years. Its programme is three lessons per week. Each lasts one and a half hours. This is less than my current CLASS training, yet there's no way any half decent club would fast-track me for training as I do.