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    More on discipline ???

    Hey guys ....

    I was at class the other week and one of us goofed up by saluting a lower ranking black belt (who entered the dojo) before waiting for the highest ranking blackbelt (who was instructing on the mat/floor) to acknowledge the lower ranking blackbelt.

    Get it?

    We were all disciplined by being kicked in the mid section.

    Is this reasonable?

    PS: the kick was hard enough to push ya back but not hard enough to drop ya or knock the wind out of ya!

    taynks mon,
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    Are you effing kidding me? That's effing ridiculous.

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    Personally, I don't think I'd feel comfortable in a setting like that. If only because that much emphasis on ranking and hierarchy isn't really socially acceptable in the US.
    Best Vietnam War music video I've ever seen put together by a vet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDY8raKsdfg

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    That's retarded.

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    It's not gunna kill you. If you really don't like the attitude, I'm sure there are much more freindly place you could train

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    Bad.

    I get so sick of people ego tripping when it comes to cultural traditions that many westerners are not familiar with. Educate them if it is important to you, but don't go whacking on them. Cut them some slack. Especially if they could beat you in a fight.

    Even stranger is that I've noticed it is oftentimes Americans who so rigorously enforce some "sacred" foreign traditions, when natives from that culture don't really give much of a damn about them, or if they even take offense, it is very minor.

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    If you go to the school follow the school rules, if you don't like the rules leave.

    You have to decide if its reasonable for you not us.

    Actually that tradition is not foreign, try fumbling in football or showing up late.

    Its that traditional stuff that makes you remmber **** like that

    I would have rather took the kick to the stomach.
    "Its not important to be strong, its just important not to be weak."

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    You're having a tough time at that school. You should probably think about looking for a different one. It doesn't sound like that sort of "discipline" is what you want.

    As for the ritual, my opinion is that unless you're a kid, it's a waste of your time. While I understand ritual is important to some people, personally I couldn't care less about saluting every idiot shodan who walks into the dojo. I'm only concerned with ritual that makes me a better competitor.

    You need to figure out what you want out of a MA school, then choose a more appropriate school.

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    You just got Pwn3d!

    Leave the school. Now. Getting kicked for saluting wrong? Even in the military they don't do anything so drastic, do they?

    PL

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    The point of ritual should be to show respect to superiors and peers, any system that has more distinctions than that is too complicated.


    In the military they would have you run P.T. but probably only in basic. Because it would probably only happen in basic.

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