7/01/2005 1:22pm, #11
I'll defend Krav.
My cousin did it for a long time. Mainly for fitness though. She stayed with it long enough for black belt. In fact, she was there when they started the LA school on Pico. Free lifetime membership for the help she gave the school.
She said she did sparring. She did lots of self defense. Even had groundwork specialists that would come in and teach class. Based on what she said it sounded pretty good. It was NOT a MMA intensive class. More self defense with simple techniques than anything else. And in my mind, that is a good thing.
Her husband is a blue belt in BJJ. He got into it after doing the groundwork at Krav.
Bas and Amir said good things about Krav while they were at BHJJC.
Just as with anything I guess, some is good and some is bad. Even BJJ is bad in some ways as it is sport oriented. Overall I can think of a LOT of other arts that would be worse to take than Krav, especially for self defense. But I can think of a LOT of others that would be better if you wanted to compete in MMA events.
7/01/2005 1:46pm, #12
It really depends on the school. Yrkoon's cousin had the privelege of studying in LA, and to make it to black belt, well, she had to have been taking it for a long time. They don't give out too many of those. My school turned in to tae-bo class, that's why I left. The fight class was excellent, and that's the only class I was going to after a while. That's why I decided to leave, one class a weak wasn't worth the expense, and it can be expensive. I had a good teacher who had a lot of martial arts experience(translated: could kick my ass), and loved BJJ, it just wasn't enough to keep me around.
The only real problem I had was the weapons defense, they suck. They'll get you hurt, because they give you a false sense of confidence(if you're a moron). Your first defense against a weapon is to run, which they do emphasize. Call me a puss, but I'll be around the next day and not have a bullet in my ass or a nice stick mark across my face.Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that kickboxing is commonly known as fighting while grappling simply isn't. - Osiris
7/01/2005 1:49pm, #13
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Why are you bringing this here? Are you hoping that you will receive praise from the more ignorant members or from the actual fighting members?
2/10 I docked you harsh for being a tattle tale
7/01/2005 1:53pm, #14
Well then I guess that settles that. For those not interested in any sport based form MMA, full-contact or Judo. Krav-maga could be the ideal choice for regular people looking to learn self-defence.
If you can learn these same techniques in say Aikido or Daito-ryu then its definitely faster to learn Krav-maga in a faster time. Minus all techniques and spirituality crap you have to learn in these arts.
7/01/2005 2:11pm, #15Originally Posted by Maestro Nobones
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7/01/2005 2:22pm, #16
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Im certain there are some good krav schools out there
The majority of them however seem to be taught by some random TKD instructor who's had a 6 week intro course on Krav. TKD doesnt take long to get a black belt- krav doensnt take long to be an instructor. Grappling takes a long time to get a grip of.
Rather than acknowledge the use of it, they'd rather explain how its not usefull in "t3h str33t" as an excuse for not being able to show any effective ground fighting techinques.
7/01/2005 2:32pm, #17Originally Posted by KumaOni
I simply wanted to give an example of people spouting the 'too deadly' line in other venues of discussion.
I think this is a good example of a lot of the stuff bullshido goes against, including the "oh well if you did that I'd just use technique #32" mentality, the idea that somehow your 'too deadly' techniques would be unerringly effective in a full speed/contact situation even though there is NO WAY to actually train to rip someone's ears off or break their knee, the idea that you could effectively use finger/wrist breaks against a fully resisting opponent, and that KM's "stomp em in the balls and gouge the eyes then break their fingers and run away" system would actually work against a decent grappler.
But hey wtf do I know, bullshido is just a popularity contest according to you.I think it was two ninjas taped together, to make one GIANT NINJA!!!!
7/01/2005 2:53pm, #18
It's just that it's been done SO many times.Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that kickboxing is commonly known as fighting while grappling simply isn't. - Osiris
7/01/2005 2:55pm, #19Originally Posted by ImAlrdyNum
sorry, I havn't been around that long, or I've managed to miss the majority of the KM uberthreads if they do in fact exist.
I apologize for having inconvenienced you.I think it was two ninjas taped together, to make one GIANT NINJA!!!!
7/01/2005 3:09pm, #20Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that kickboxing is commonly known as fighting while grappling simply isn't. - Osiris