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    Wally Jay & SmallCircleJiuJitsu. ..??

    I'm just looking for any input You all might have regarding SmallCircleJiuJitsu..and especially Wally Jay.

    I've read a lot about Him online & in print. So, any additional information would be greatly appreciated.

    much obliged.

    T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. Ardee
    I'm just looking for any input You all might have regarding SmallCircleJiuJitsu..and especially Wally Jay.

    I've read a lot about Him online & in print. So, any additional information would be greatly appreciated.

    much obliged.

    T.
    I've been to some of his seminars here in the NW. Wally Jay is very old (in his eighties -- maybe nineties now), but very spry and funny. What I've seen in his seminars consisted mainly of really, really painful wrist/joint and (owie) finger manipulations (he's well known for finger-breaking, apparently).

    Anyway, it's good technique; he's very knowledgeable and pretty funny too, from what I remember.

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    Wally Jay is a master's master who still goes 'on tour' promoting his art, and helping others promote theirs. If you don't believe that sh*t works, volunteer at a demonstration. His base art is DanZan Ryu JuJitsu (Henry Okazaki). Small Circle JuJitsu originated from subset of techniques taught by Professor Okazaki, drawing heavily from Hawaiian Lua.


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    I guess I would say is that he has a unique form or way of doing jujitsu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddy
    I guess I would say is that he has a unique form or way of doing jujitsu.
    I would agree.

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    Wally Jay was my uncle's Sensei in Judo and Jiu Jitsu and I've met him. The only thing that I don't like is their (Leon the son and Wally) relationship with Dillman, Mr. Pressure Point.

    The style has less live training (from what little I know) than BJJ. It is more like Japanese JJ. Which people like Asia have said they prefer for military use because you don't go to the ground.
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    Thanks..pretty much, exactly what I thought. I think the "master's master" comment is right on.

    I don't however, like the (tm) that follows any mention of SmallCircleJiujitsu. The commercialization of the MartialArts is what almost ruined them; pre-KarateKid it was totally different.

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    Right. But you can't necessarily say that Wally Jay's adding the (tm) is to blame, or even a contribution. There's a good chance that he's only done that after the bastardization as a way of protecting himself and his organization.
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    Leon Jay teaches at the centre I work at and from what I've seen it's pretty legit. They seem to go pretty hard with resistant partners though they could do a bit more sparring.
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    I have no faith in small joint manipulation.

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