What happened to jiu-jitsu? (not bjj)

**qwerty12_** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 8:55am

It seems that ever since BJJ started to spread, all talk of "classic" JJ just disappeared. Why is this? I rarely hear anything bad about it (except aikido) . Yet no one seems to practice it. Why is this?

**J.T. Hurley** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 9:41am

"Traditionally," Koryu arts don't do a lot of self-promotion. That is not to say that information is not out there. Great places to start include www.koryu.com , www.e-budo.com , and strangely enough www.aikidojournal.com.

I'm not kidding about that last one. A lot of their contributors do Koryu.

Gaining in popularity, at least in my opinion, is Daito-Ryu. You may want to start with the DRAJJ Hombu Dojo site at www.daito-ryu.org . Daito-Ryu was one of the major inspirations for Aikido, and features very similar techniques, although practiced with more resistance early on, with more emphasis on injuring the opponent in the actual performance of the technique, and in a more formalized curricula.

The Koryu arts are out there, they still have value, and they are growing in popularity. You just won't see them on ESPN or in the Octagon.

**Poop Loops** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 12:14pm

Poeple stopped talking about JJJ when it got owned by Judo.

PL

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 12:24pm

Originally Posted by Poop-Loops

Poeple stopped talking about JJJ when it got owned by Judo.

PL

Pretty much. Kano's guys soundly defeated the JJJ guys earlier this century.

JJJ is definitely around, but it's just not promoted and high profile.

**Poop Loops** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 12:33pm

You mean last century, right? :)

PL

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 12:42pm

Originally Posted by Poop-Loops

You mean last century, right? :)

PL

Oh, ****, point. Yeah. Heh heh.

**elipson** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 3:57pm

Hapkido is replacing it?

**SLAP**

Bad Os, bad!

Old school JJ clubs don't compete so they don't get much attention. A lot law enforcement agencies use techniques from JJ, wrist restraints and stuff. I work in security and those techniques are priceless for taking someone outside when you DON'T want to turn them into a bloody mess; it looks bad on us when we do that.

**FighterJones** · Posted On: 6/19/2005 6:27pm

Some evolve.
IE-
Ketto Ryu Ju jitsu was a traditional japanese ju jitsu system that evolved into a shindo ju jitsu which is essentially MMA but also had alot of very good self defense stuff.