Thread: Crocop vs. Bonjasky 2002
6/14/2005 11:46pm, #1
Crocop vs. Bonjasky 2002
WHAT THE HELL!?!?
Ok, I know I am 3 years late on this but I just got to watch the fight today. Does K1 always stop the fights like that? That fight was awsome untill the ref stopped it WAY too early and gave it to Crocop. I mean I know he was raining hell and brimstone down on Remy but Remy looked fine. He was cocering up and when the ref stopped it he looked surprised. Just minutes earlier he had weathered a similar storm and even busted out a couple of knees in retaliation.
So is there some rule I don't know about that if you just keep punching a certain numer of punches unanswered they'll just award you the fight regardless of if you landed anything or hurt your opponent?
I'm just glad as hell I didn't pay for that fight. :qbluepira
6/15/2005 7:52pm, #2
Uh, K-1 has a rule of 2 knockdowns or two standing counts. Can't remember that fight though I think Remy staggered a bit more at the end there for the stoppage.Surfing Facebook at work? Spread the good word by adding us on Facebook today! https://www.facebook.com/Bullshido
6/15/2005 9:16pm, #3
dude... Remy was getting fucked. bad. you should have seen his face after that fight. He wasnt gonna stage a comeback, he was just covering and being a human punchbag for the cyborg.
edit- i just watched the fight again, you do realise in k-1 rules that when one guy gets hit a bajillion times in a row without attempting to do anything except use his iron face technique, it is a standing eight count. he got knocked down, then he got a standing eight, and under k-1 rules that means he loses.
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6/15/2005 11:13pm, #4
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The part where Cro Cop catches his leg and kicks the other from him owned.
6/16/2005 4:55pm, #5
His face was fine. The FIRST time Crorop started raining blows down on him I thought it was over but he hardly landed anything AND Remy even managed to counter with a pretty decent knee. It's not that I thought Remy was doing well or anything but he just didn't look dazed and his hands were up and his guard was effective. I only saw 1 or 2 solid hist in there. It wasn't like in a boxing match where the guy is out on his feet and his training just let his legs take over on automatic not letting him fall over.
And yeah, KM, that catch and sweep was cool. Did you like how Crocop was so happy with it he went for it again right after?
Crocop is still my favorite fighter in K1 OR Pride so it's not like I was rooting for Remy or anything. But damn man, early stoppages piss me off. If it was because there was a knockdown AND the standing 8 in the same round...*grr*...going back to watch it again....
6/16/2005 5:02pm, #6...you should have seen his face after that fight.
I also just rewatched his "What the ****!?!" and looking around when the ref stopped the fight. I'm tempted to make a .gif.
edit: I just watched it again and even those 2 punches were glancing and not the his face but the sides of his head.
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6/16/2005 7:14pm, #7
well I guess it could be like boxing where they wait until you have been knocked o nyour ass six times and have permanent brain **** before they stop a fight, but I prefer it the way it is. he wasnt fighting back, it was obvious he had lost the fight and had nothing left. they could wait for him to get fucked up or stop the fight.
edit- sorry i had a brainfart and was thinking about the sapp-sefo fight and the time someone was telling me all about how Bob Sapp was pushed down and not hit o_O Sapp was so scary after that fight, looked like someone had worked him over with an iron pipe
6/16/2005 9:06pm, #8
lol. I missed that one.
I guess you have a point about the safety of the fighters but the rule of thumb for me would be: Is the fighter still defending himself. I mean, sure he wasn't mounting an offense but he clearly had his wits about him and WHO KNOWS what would have happened. Did you see Silva/Henderson? There were at least 2 times when one or the other was in worse trrouble than Remy was in that fight but then they turned it around. I know that for the most part Silva just controlled that fight but you never know what's going to happen. Henderson stunned Silva at one point with an overhand right that was a complete surprise.
The think that made me really think about it thought was how after the FIRST time Crocop layed into him for what seemed like forever, the moment they broke he threw an great looking knee. To me that says that he had his wits about him and was just trying to weather the storm. Sometimes you can just tire a guy out that way. Foreman/Ali?
Your right though if you just mean "better safe than sorry". I'd hate to lose that way though.
6/16/2005 10:21pm, #9
yeah you are right, but I prefer that they err on the side of caution. Remy has a bad habit of doing this in fights, his fight against Botha was another class example of just covering for most of the fight, although he did land a good kick at the end
6/16/2005 11:04pm, #10