[El-Wood]

Just got an e-mail from an old friend who was very into bullshido back when I knew her (years and years and years ago). Still is it seems (tai chi, feng schui, fulon gong, etc.).

Apparently now she is teaching aiki jiu jitsu and is 3rd dan (no comment)...

What is aiki jiu jitsu? Personal bullshido meter went off the chart when she told me it was the "foundation for of aikido and bujikan more commonely called ninjitsu".

[Poop Loops]

I've heard of Aiki Jutsu, but not Aiki Jujutsu. You sure you didn't mean the former? Because that is the "base" art for Aikido. A bit more "nasty", but the same principle from what I could tell. A real art, but I'd rank it the same as Aikido: bleah.

PL

[feedback]

What is aiki jiu jitsu? Personal bullshido meter went off the chart when she told me it was the "foundation for of aikido and bujikan more commonely called ninjitsu".

I thought that was correct except with jiujitsu instead of fagninjitsu

[access1denied]

Aikijitsu, aikijujitsu... blah. They're both forms of Daito Ryu Aiki Jutjisu, correct? Anyone, all of this aiki shit is equally useless, and pleasurable to poke fun at.

[Kinzei]

How long has she been studying? Real Daito Ryu is somewhat rare. It is indead the foundation art for Aikido and Hopkido as well. Daito Ryu also had a big impact on Kano's Judo. If taught as a combat art it is effective, but not an easy art to learn quickly. Also, unlike most Aikido, there is lots of atemi in Daito Ryu.

[antman]

Aiki-jutsu Ancient sytem of combat based on jujutsu; founded by Shinra Saburo Yoshimitsu during the Kamakura period (1185-1336) in Japan. Also known as aiki-jujutsu, it is the art from which aikido developed.

Sometine during the 13th century a school existed to the north of Mt. Fuji that specialised in the teaching of aiki-jutsu. It was kept secret except for a few disciples, for the most part Japanese nobles of ancient lineage. This art had originated from kenjutsu, and is said to have gradually become a meothd of combat superior to jujutsu.

The term aiki, like ju, indiactes a principle a way of using the body as a weapon of combat. The method of aiki is to use the coordinated power of ki in harmony with the circumstances of combat: by blending one's strategy with an opponent'ts to attain full control over him and over the encounter. See also aikido. Further reading:Secrets of the Samurai, Adel Westbrook and Oscar Ratti.

From Martial Arts:Traditions, History,People by Corcoran and Farkas

Don't shoot the messenger I just puttingit up for info with no opinion either way!!!

[Fantasy Warrior]

correct me if I'm wrong but it is also commonly spelt akijitsu (no "i" before the k). A real enough system which tends to focus on small joint manipulations -i.e. complex wrist locks. Like most things it can be taught reasonably well but from what I've seen/heard, it is nearly always very compliant.....

It is very commonly the base for law enforcement official training in UK.... which shows how politicaly correct and ineffective it is (IMO)

[Kinzei]

"Like most things it can be taught reasonably well but from what I've seen/heard, it is nearly always very compliant....."


Very true. My instructor, however, even when teaching a technique, uses resistance. It can be very frustrating. There are many nuances neccesary for making the techniques work properly. Also, strength can be a hinderance, as you try to "muscle" the techniques.

Also, as KK stated, the techniques are usually taught as locks, but when taught for combat, they are joint dislocations/breaks.

The proper spelling is:
Aiki jujutsu (at least for the Daito Ryu branch)

[Kinzei]

Here is a link for the home page El-wood.
http://www.daito-ryu.org/

[Sophist]

Originally Posted by Kinzei

Very true. My instructor, however, even when teaching a technique, uses resistance.

So, uh, how does that work? If your opponent is resisting properly, you shouldn't be able to slap on just any technique you want; this is why teaching techniques for the first time is generally done with compliancy even in the alive arts.

Does your branch of the art spar?