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  1. Ronin is offline

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    Sweet kicks and throws !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    Are there any vidoes of the Kyokushin vs San Shou fighters?
    Haven't heard of any. Shouldn't be at the Wushu Championships. Maybe at Allstyle Open.
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    A while ago, someone posted about San Shou guys fighting Kyokushinkai to prove their stlye, in some sort of exhibition match. Supposedly the San Shou guys worked over the Kyokushin guys. Everyone posted that's because Kyokushin doesn't puch to the face, and Roniin said he was glad that the Kyokushinkai lost so that hopefully they would start to step up there game, and evolve as a Martial art etc.

    Anyway I told my Enshin instructor about the exhibtion he didin't believe me and said he wanted to see video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    A while ago, someone posted about San Shou guys fighting Kyokushinkai to prove their stlye, in some sort of exhibition match. Supposedly the San Shou guys worked over the Kyokushin guys. Everyone posted that's because Kyokushin doesn't puch to the face, and Roniin said he was glad that the Kyokushinkai lost so that hopefully they would start to step up there game, and evolve as a Martial art etc.

    Anyway I told my Enshin instructor about the exhibtion he didin't believe me and said he wanted to see video.

    Are you sure this was in Sweden?

    (EDIT: Confusion between Sweden and Switzerland is quite common)
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    as far as kyokushin vs sanda:

    http://crane.50megs.com/index6z.htm

    http://crane.50megs.com/index6zc.htm

    not sure about video, if i find it i will post it. at least this is a detailed account
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    Cool championship film! What are the knee and elbow rules for san shou? I know there is some debate with Muay Thai differences but I can't remember the specifics. Also how long are they allowed to attempt a throw?
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    Kewlies clips!

    San shou is cool! Never knew that. :)

    If TKD were to adapt sparring rules of San Shou, then it might have a legit chance of being considered effective. :)
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    There are several different set of rules. There is a professional league in China that allows knees at least. In the Swedish rules there are no knees, no elbows. I think the clinch is broken if two seconds goes by without any real attempts to throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrosmurf
    There are several different set of rules. There is a professional league in China that allows knees at least. In the Swedish rules there are no knees, no elbows. I think the clinch is broken if two seconds goes by without any real attempts to throw.
    There are fights where knees and elbows are allowed, but Liokault tells me they usually go under the name San Da. The rules I've read for the UK give you 3 seconds in the clinch to execute a takedown before it's broken by the ref.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    . The rules I've read for the UK give you 3 seconds in the clinch to execute a takedown before it's broken by the ref.
    It depends on the rules and who is holding the event.

    Most places say 5 seconds, the BCCMA (sanctioned body in the UK who suck, wushu dancers most of them) tend to strictly stick to 5s but most places will stretch the time if things are happening in the clinch and there is still the chance of a throw.

    San Shou rules.

    I'm going to start fighting again next year I think if I can loose 7kg and my niggling injuries.
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