Posted On:3/12/2003 1:01am
I've recently read about a Russian martial art called systema which is said to be very effective in mixed martial arts fights. Does any one know anything about this stuff? Is it any good?
Posted On:3/12/2003 1:27am
it's a marketing scam
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Posted On:3/12/2003 4:35am
Its a combination of internal styles with a radically different training methodology. Actually, theres not that much style to it either. The way its marketed is awful, playing up the spetznas angle and all that stuff, and theres the expectation to wear combat pants and boots while training (which I refuse to do). The guys who teach it in the UK are good blokes, and I train with one of them every month in taiji (Dave Nicholson).
However... I've not trained in any other MMA environment, so I don't know how it would differ to those.
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Posted On:3/12/2003 11:42am
Take all the history of it with a grain of salt (a big fat hunk of rock salt), but it is a very flowing, effective style. It greatly resembles a mix of tai chi and bagua, but with emphasis on close range fighting: striking, tripping, off-balancing, and joint locks are prevalent. Regardless of its origins (Cossacks, Spetsnatz, KGB, Aliens, God), it is worthwhile.
Posted On:3/12/2003 12:34pm
Johan... What country are you in?
Posted On:3/12/2003 8:23pm
~I'm in Australia.
I'm not so concerned about the background of Systema at the moment or the lack of style, but if the principles are effective then it could be of use to me.
Edited by - johanlook on March 12 2003 19:29:33
Posted On:3/13/2003 4:32am
You can probably learn a lot of the principles from bagua and taiji. Check out Earle Montaigue's videos, or if you live close enough, go get some lessons.
Posted On:3/13/2003 11:20am
Well, I would say (at least from the Systema that I practiced) that for more immediate benefit, Systema beats Bagua or Tai Chi, because there are no forms per se, just practice and sparring. Makes it a little difficult to practice alone, but you get immediate understanding of the style by intensive partner training.
Posted On:3/13/2003 11:42am
A lot of the softness in systema is straight from CMAs, so it doesn't hurt to have that softness and sensitivity already.
Posted On:3/13/2003 11:52am
No disagreement from this quarter.
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