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  1. Locu5 is offline
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    Taijutsu seemed pretty hardcore when Lois used it to kick Peters fat ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Machine
    Taijutsu seemed pretty hardcore when Lois used it to kick Peters fat ass.
    Get it right; that was taejitsu. Totally different characters there, Mr. As-Culturally-Sensitive-as-a-Badly-Circumcised-Penis. >:(
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    Well if you wanna get technical....both jitsu and jutsu are just different ways of trying to make the sound the japanese do.Same thing with tae-tai.
    They mean the same.They are both one word.
    But regardless which way I say either to japanese people who don't speak english.They have no idea what I'm saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Machine
    Well if you wanna get technical....both jitsu and jutsu are just different ways of trying to make the sound the japanese do.Same thing with tae-tai.
    They mean the same.They are both one word.
    But regardless which way I say either to japanese people who don't speak english.They have no idea what I'm saying.
    Actually, no. Jitsu means something completely different than jutsu.

    And tae would be pronounced differently than tai.

    The hiragana for taijutsu is たいじゅつ. The hiragana for taejitsu is たえじつ. The kanji for each word are different as well. Compare:

    tai: 対
    jitsu: 実
    jutsu: 術

    According to all my dictionaries, tae isn't even a word. Tai means "body," and is apparent from words like "taikukan" (gymnasium).

    Jitsu is different than jutsu from words like "heijitsu," which is a term for weekdays. Other romanization systems may have once equated jitsu with jutsu, but I've had linguistics graduate students at my university tell me that phonetically the words are very different and that the Japanese spelling of "jutsu" in hiragana means that a u should be used.
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    So then what does "jutsu" mean in taijutsu? And what does "jitsu" mean in taijitsu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Machine
    Well if you wanna get technical....both jitsu and jutsu are just different ways of trying to make the sound the japanese do.Same thing with tae-tai.
    They mean the same.They are both one word.
    But regardless which way I say either to japanese people who don't speak english.They have no idea what I'm saying.
    Aw hell, I'm bustin your professional balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Machine
    So then what does "jutsu" mean in taijutsu? And what does "jitsu" mean in taijitsu?

    Jutsu means roughly "art" or "method." Taijutsu means "the art of moving the body." It's also not specific or unique to the ryuha of the Bujinkan. Lots of koryu arts have a taijutsu component. Taijutsu as it is taught in the X-kans is a unifying principle to all of the various arts taught by the schools (which ranges from things like koppojutsu (the art of attacking the bones), kenjutsu (sword arts), jujutsu (the soft art, grappling) and dakentaijutsu (using the body as a weapon art, or striking)).

    Jitsu is not its own morpheme. It doesn't mean anything by itself. It must be part of a larger word, and not a word in its own right, like jutsu. Taijitsu means nothing.

    The confusion comes because in Japanese, a short [i] or [u] sound isn't pronounced quite as loud as other syllables. They end up being "swallowed" by the surrounding sounds. This is why you don't here the [u] at the end of a phrase like "onegai shimasu," which sounds like "oh-nay-guy shi-mas." The sounds of [i] and [u] can sound similar to a non-Japanese person, but the hiragana characters which are used to write the words aren't so vague. There is a large difference between "ji" (じ)and "ju" (じゅ).
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    Aw hell, I'm bustin your professional balls.

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