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  1. sicksicksick is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/11/2002 9:22pm


     

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    How long do the MMA guys here study a style for before deciding what moves to take from it and move on? Just a curiosity more than anything else.
  2. samantha711 is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/11/2002 9:48pm


     

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Since I work with a guy that knows quite a bit about several arts, it's kind of an ongoing thing for me..
    One night we could be boxing, another rolling, some nights Kali/Escrima...
    And as I go, I stop to think...ahhhh, I love that move, it works for me, my weight etc & it comes natural to me, then I work that a little harder..

    As far as having to go from school (dojo) to school, that would be harder for me..I guess the same way, you get to the point things start seeming redundant, get what works for you, then go.

    <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> Sam
  3. 9chambers

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    8/12/2002 3:35am


     

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    That is a really good point to make Sick. Some guys think that leafing through a book at Walden's means they can now say they have experience in that style. Some people scratch the surface of a style and don't really get it - so they dissmiss its effectiveness.

    My answer to your question would be this:

    I just try to understand the human body and how it moves. When I delve into a certain style then I am looking at how they use the body - their approach. When I research a style, I look at the techniques in the kata and the drills - then I look at the general concepts behind the specific moves.

    For example, in Chin Na there are hundreds of techniques that employ the use of the elbow as a lever by bending it back in a specific direction. Each specific technique may have a different setup but the general concept is exactly the same. The elbow only moves so far when twisted like this.

    That lever can be used in a variety of situations. Knowing how that lever works is the main thing, not trying to understand specific processes and formulas for grabbing the elbow and getting it from here to here. The reason you study such a variety of setups is so you can become familiar with the options - the geography of that lever.

    Later, being versitile and educated - you will be able to use that lever even if it is presented to you in a way never covered in class. A guy might fall on you and you might have him in that lock, using that lever to crank him before he hits the ground.

    I study why technique works. I look at the targets for the strike. I look at the way it is thrown.. the angle, the position of the body. I look at small details.

    When I am satistfied that I understand the details and the concept then I experiment with the technique myself. I try it out, I practice it. I learn how and where it fits in choreography, scenario training and sparring. I talk about it with instructors and I test it on my friends.

    If I like a specific move then I keep it - but more importantly I learn the concepts. Learning what an arm bar is, how it works, how to get it and what to do with it. That is more important than knowing the Japanese name for a specific arm bar technique from Jujutsu and the Chinese name for the Chin Na technique that looks exactly like it and the Korean name for the Hapkido technique that looks exactly like it.

    I believe interchangeable parts are more versitile than set routines. It makes you more spontaneous and alive. I think concepts make better interchangeable parts than specific techniques.

    my kung fu eeeeeees better than yours!

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