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  1. slavegan is offline

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    5/09/2005 6:15pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    yes absolutely

    Kata Dante
    This form originates from count Dante .He supposedly developed this
    .Kata in the late 60`s .The kata only includes practical techniques
    and is mainly for self defence only .The techniques is connected into one long sequence
    and focus is on continuity and fluidity .The kata includes to some degree dangerous and "ugly" techniques techniques .The kata is to be performed in under 10 sec at maximum speed.
    lars erik lie demonstrates the form almost at full speed and is performed in less than 8 secs.

    nb.It is heated discussions around the world about count Dante and his
    "deadly hands of death", as this form is originally named.
    We do not represent either bdfs or Ashida Kim or anyone else .Teaching this kata
    we are only showing it for "entertainment only" so every one who wants
    can judge the validity of the kata.

    it should be clean of the worst spelling and grammatical errors.

    he also has some vid of a oom yung doe Kata and links to among other rick tew
    and others if these persons are so controversial why does he want to
    be asociated with them in any way.if he does not in some way condone there
    teaching and activity

    are you from sweden ? dont you understand Norwegian
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    Posted On:
    5/11/2005 2:28am


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    Was recently in Lund, Sweden and saw a school called Goshin Ryu Kempo, which was definitely a McDojo. One of the clauses in their contract is that you cannot train anywhere else. If you do, you get kicked out, and you still have to pay tuition for the remainder of the contract. I did meet some guys out of Gothenberg (sp?) who did a mix of Krav Maga and Muay Thai, and they were tough, good fighters.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Wing Chun

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I think clubs that are in it to make a profit from their activities are relatively few in Sweden. Most clubs take out low membership fees to cover rent and basic expenses. Instructors are usually not paid anything. Maybe this is changing nowadays but I think it still true in most cases.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Wing Chun

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    Regarding Goshin Ryu Kempo: It is headed by a controversial figure by the name of Jörgen Jörgensen who is a well-known McDojo operator in southern sweden.
    I think you can read about some of the controversy surrounding him in some issue of Fighter Magazine from 2000 or 2001.
  5. slavegan is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/11/2005 7:57am


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    i think its the same case in Norway most fees are around
    1000-1500 fro 6 months and that covers actually nothing but
    equipment mats on the floor light rent and so on
    but think its because atleast in Norway Martail art isnt that big
    .to give an example kickboxing champs has a hard time getting
    sponsors in this country even the ones that goes to world championships
    some of them live in tents when there abroad .this is how we treat ma champs in Norway.so if some nut comes around and wants 500 kroner a month i dont think
    they would get it

    the kickboxing club i train in is one of the best in Norway i pay only 1600
    hundred and thats included a gym i can use from 6 in the morning to 12
    in the night.
    but there are definetely some bullshidos in Norway i have seen and heard
    about a few of them so far .and i havent been looking so there are bound to be
    alot out there.
  6. slavegan is offline

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    5/11/2005 7:58am


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    i remember now i have heard of jørgen jørgensen i can try to find the article about him in one of the magazine if it is interesting.if noone asks i wont bother
    i cant gurantee if i can find but ill try
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    5/11/2005 8:18am


     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterfinger
    Was recently in Lund, Sweden and saw a school called Goshin Ryu Kempo, which was definitely a McDojo. One of the clauses in their contract is that you cannot train anywhere else. If you do, you get kicked out, and you still have to pay tuition for the remainder of the contract. I did meet some guys out of Gothenberg (sp?) who did a mix of Krav Maga and Muay Thai, and they were tough, good fighters.
    One of the guys I train with is a 2nd degree blackbelt in Goshin Ryu (trained with them for seven years). All he ever said about it was that the training is crap.
    I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.

    "Step away," I hissed.
    -Phil Elmore
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    5/16/2005 3:18pm


     Style: Beer back, Singha arms

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    Have you forgotten about kung-fu tao, formerly known as Squirrel Fist?
  9. slavegan is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/17/2005 6:14pm


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    i have heard about kung fu toa or tua something like that
    is that the same
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    5/18/2005 3:44am


     Style: Beer back, Singha arms

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    Yup, kung fu tao, kung fu t'oa, squirrel fist. All the same, created by taoists in buddhist temples and an iranian kickboxer is the sole inheritor of the whole 18000 techniques.
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