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  1. fang shen do is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/01/2005 3:40pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    belt system

    I used to think that belts were useful in MA, but now I am not sure anymore.
    so here is a simple question: what are the pros and the cons on the belt ranking system subject.

    I'll start: pros: It can be a goal, something you focus on to be a better MAist.
    It may help the instructors to organize their classes, depending on the level of the students.
    It can incite lower level students to respect and pay attention to what higher level students are saying.

    cons: It can be very subjective.
    It can give you a false sense of security.
    It's only a piece fabric, by the time you put it on your are certainly not a better MAist
    It can be a distraction from what is really important in MA: training.


    So the door is opened... I'm waiting for your opinion.
  2. fang shen do is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/01/2005 8:42pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    was that a stupid question?
  3. TKD Black Belt is offline
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    Posted On:
    4/02/2006 1:46pm


     Style: Whoo-Hoo-Fu!

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Absolutely not, I mean look at all the things a belt can do for you:
    1.) Hold up your pants.
    2.) Accessorize you wardrobe.
    3.) Make you look manly.
    4.) Write your name on it.
    5.) Something to dry your tears on when you realize that you've wasted your life in a system that has effectively done nothing but picked your pocket for the last 4 1/2 years!

    TKD

    I wear silk cause it makes me feel pretty!
  4. nezha is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/02/2006 7:56pm


     Style: Boxing, Wushu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    i use my belt to whip my pokemon
  5. CaptainHowdy is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/02/2006 8:17pm


     

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    It depends on what martial arts system you're talking about. In some systems, a belt ranking can represent a strong understanding of many of the system's techniques and applications. For others, a belt ranking can represent how much money you've paid your instructor.

    I don't have much of a problem with belt rankings. The only thing that is lame is the assumption that having a black belt in any martial art makes a person "teh deadly" or unstoppable. I think that as long a people understand that a belt is ultimately a piece of cloth, there is nothing wrong with belt rankings.
  6. Poop Loops is offline
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    OOOOOOOOOOAAARRGGHH RLY?

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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    This thread is almost a year old. TKD loses again!
  7. danno is offline
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    Posted On:
    4/02/2006 8:31pm

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     Style: BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    this is a pretty old topic...

    anyways, i think the belt system in BJJ works pretty well.
  8. Lu Tze is offline

    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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    Posted On:
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     Style: Judo

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    1. Hold your jacket closed.

    2. Tie one end to a broom handle (or any other convienient cylindrical object) and the other to a weight to make a handy wrist curler.

    3. Defeating the deadly Kuk Sool fan form (I could tell you how, but then I'd have to kill you).

    4. Hang yourself for resurecting year old threads.

    I think that about covers it.
  9. nezha is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/02/2006 9:06pm


     Style: Boxing, Wushu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    goddamnit you forgot pokemon whipping

    no one appreciates me
  10. Hannibal is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/02/2006 10:41pm

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     Style: Kyokushin and Judo.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Personally I couldn't care less about belts or gradings.

    Train hard and improve. Don't judge someone on their rank, judge them on their technique and fighting ability. WHen those two elements improve, then your getting somewhere.
    Hannibal: The sworn enemy of dishonest politicians, source of entertainment on Bullshido and newly appointed Office Linebacker. Terry Tait ain't got **** on me !!!!
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