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  1. Ming Loyalist is offline
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    solves problems with violence

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    6/29/2004 8:14pm

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    well, it's an easy accident... just last week i clocked my training partner in the temple with my shin doing an armbar. i felt really bad, she had to stop training for a few minutes and eveyone was staring at me like i was an axe murderer. i think it's a reminder to keep your head UP when in guard... either that or as close to their body as you can. in between is a bad place to be as far as i can tell (but by all means correct me if i am wrong.)
    "Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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    Wich is better, swinging the leg over or kicking it through (which is why kicking people in the head for armbars happens...)
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    The Antishock 3.0 is good, but my jaw still slides way too much. If I got hit full-on front to the front or side of the jaw I don't think the mouthguard would make a huge difference. Since tomorrow looks to be a slow day at work, I think I'll go check out the double-layered Antishock. The problem is that my jaw will still have to be in a fixed position, so it's probably not worth sinking another $30 when I can use the BrainPad if I expect to get punched to sleep.
    On the plus side, I put the Antishock 3.0 in and I couldn't even tell it was there. That moulding is top-notch. I think I clenched my teeth too hard into it a few times though, which indicates that I'm still way too tense.

    Monkey today clarified what he told me; he said a cheap $3 piece of rubber would be good enough for grappling, but since he said the SD single kept him awake after that big punch then I guess it can't be all bad. I'm pretty sure the Pride and UFC guys would be using them already if they were so great...

    And Piz, I get booted in the face all the time when working inside someone's guard. It's a fact of grappling. Still, if I didn't apologize then I do now.

    Originally posted by Ming Loyalist
    i use the shock doctor 3.0 i used to have a brain pad lo-pro and that was ok, but the shock doc is WAY better. great for both stand up and grappling. i wear it every time i roll cause you never know when someone's gonna accidentally kick you in the face when trying to armbar you from the guard.

    it takes a little while to get used to if you are used to the fit of the normal style single kind.
    How did you find it restricted the mobility of your jaw? Does it still make you clench? How is the airflow through the middle vent? The BrainPad's strength in my opinion is that the air channel is huge for something that absorbs so much punishment.
    Last edited by Dreadnought; 6/30/2004 8:25am at .
  4. Ming Loyalist is offline
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    6/30/2004 12:07am

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    Originally posted by Shumagorath
    How did you find it restricted the mobility of your jaw? Does it still make you clench? How is the airflow through the middle vent? The BrainPad's strength in my opinion is that the air channel is huge for something that absorbs so much punishment.
    no resriction in jaw movement as far as i can tell. (of course no one can understand what you say when you try to talk with it in.)

    you have to clench a little, but it stays put when you don't (unless that's when you get hit.)

    the airflow is as good or better than the brainpan, there is a channel in the middle for airflow.
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    6/30/2004 12:15am

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    Ok, I have a problem with mouth peices that may be a bit unusual...

    Everytime I wear a mouthpeice, even if I'm not sparring or rolling and just wearing it in my mouth, after about 5 minutes it makes me want to vomit. It seriously makes me feel sick. I've tried all kinds, and I still use them (and I haven't barfed yet) but the feeling is very uncomfortable. Anyone have/had/know of a similar problem? Any fixes?
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    If you're just grappling, I say a double mouthguard is a bit overkill. I mean, you aren't taking repeated blows to the head. But for stand-up, yes, I'd definitely go for a double mouthguard.

    I currently have some cheap-ass $5 double mouthguard and I fucking hate it. It has a "breathing channel" but it's worthless. By the time you need to resort to mouth breathing, you're winding pretty hard and that little channel just makes you feel like you're suffocating. I end up opening my mouth anyway.

    I need to go out and get a decent single since I mostly do grappling these days.
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    I use an upper boil and mold, I love it... Never failed me yet and taken some punches right on the jaw that pratically went right thru my head. I have a brain pad, dunno why I felt like I should have bought it one day, but it gags me if I dont get moving and thinking about other stuff. If your gagging on a mouthpiece, cut it shorter so it doesnt go so far back in your mouth. I just havent bothered fixing that one yet.
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    Posted On:
    6/30/2004 2:09am


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    Either that or get rid of your gag reflex...
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    Posted On:
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    Originally posted by JKing
    Ok, I have a problem with mouth peices that may be a bit unusual...

    Everytime I wear a mouthpeice, even if I'm not sparring or rolling and just wearing it in my mouth, after about 5 minutes it makes me want to vomit. It seriously makes me feel sick. I've tried all kinds, and I still use them (and I haven't barfed yet) but the feeling is very uncomfortable. Anyone have/had/know of a similar problem? Any fixes?
    Yup... I have the same problem.
    All I've come up with is to suck hard, create a vacuum in the mouth and supress the gag reflex that way.

    Alternatively, you could puke in the corner, then carry on. Your training partners will have a new found respect for you at that point.
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    I like my O-Pro mouthguard. I've used several mouthguards out in the market:

    1) O-Pro - I love this one and I can wear it all day without discomfort. Lots of padding and breathing with it is great. Fits snug and will stay put after a hard hit to the jaw. This piece is a do-it yourself mold kit. Included is an audio CD with a british guy telling you how to mold your teeth. After you're done, you send it with the included paid postage box. Few weeks you get it in the mail and you're ready to bang. I paid $59 for the heavy duty version. You even get to customize it with colors. Unfortuantely I had to order a second one. I left my first one on the dashboard of my car on a hot day and it deformed...unrepairable with boil n bite method. However, its worth the money.

    2) Shockdoctor - One of my favorites and my backup piece. Although it's a boil n bite, it fits pretty snug, but it can come loose if you get hit pretty hard.

    3) Proform - Expensive 120-150 from your dentist. This piece takes a while to make. Your dentist will need to take a plaster mold of your teeth. It'll take several weeks before its done. It's comfortable to wear and fits snug, but it doesn't offer enough protection for the dreaded uppercut. Be sure to keep you plaster molds, so you can show your friends how many teeth you have left, or save them to make bleaching trays.

    4) Whipps Brainpad - I hate it. Too bulky and uncomfortable to wear during hour of training. Breathing sucks with it, plus you'll end up drooling.

    5) Boil n' Bite - You get what you pay for. I hate this one. If you get knock in the teeth and it hurts, then its time upgrade.

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    Last edited by redrover; 6/30/2004 3:10am at .
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